Only AFTER creation, but not during.
There wasn't even a calendar back then.
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Correct. But not for creation.there is no case in the Bible where evening-and-morning is not a 24 hour day.
Ex 20:11 places the 24 hour day of Sinai = to the day in Gen 1:3-2:4
To insert something else for reasons outside of the text and the obvious meaning to the the readers - the primary contemporary readers is a form of eisegesis.
Correct. But not for creation.
I am saying there wasn't a calendar at the time of creation.
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They are our days in this era.That is a parameter/limit you are inserting no text argues the case and Ex 20:8-11 specifically refutes it. "Six days you shall labor...for in six days the Lord made"..
Same author, same audience, same context.. and we all know that Moses was no darwinist.
They are our days in this era.
I think we both agree with that point.
My point is that they affirm all ten of the ten commandments in their documents including the Sabbath commandment as being included (though edited to point to week-day-1). They don't claim that some people think it was saturday and some think it was sunday -- rather they agree it was saturday as given in the Bible and that what the Bible calls the first day of the week upon which Jesus was raised from the dead -- is what we call Sunday... so that still makes the 7th day Saturday.
My initial point was not about which day is what -- just that all ten of the ten commandments are included in the moral law of God according to the Bible and agreed to by groups on both sides of the topic as noted in my signature line.
Only AFTER creation, but not during.
God rested on the seventh day and God is still resting. This will give you an idea of how long the days of creation were.7th DAY Sabbath .... a special day the Lord created .... part of creation. He created it as a day of rest (a day .... not some "unknown or claimed long time-frame").
Genesis 2:2
And by the seventh day God had finished the work He had been doing; so on that day He rested from all His work.
Hebrews 4:10
New Living Translation
For all who have entered into God’s rest have rested from their labors, just as God did after creating the world.
Mark 2:27
English Standard Version
And he said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.
Genesis 2:2
And on the seventh day God finished his work that he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work that he had done.
I am back.
I believe God created the earth, the ball of dirt and rock beneath the creation probably outside of time. I think trying to date it is pointless and that it probably gives off a very inaccurate age. It could be young, it could be old, perhaps age is the wrong question to even be asking, perhaps if it was made outside of time and is both young and ancient at the same time. I believe it sat like that, empty and void for as long as God wanted it to sit. A millisecond or 4 billion years does not bother me. If it was made in time there is nothing to say it didn't sit void for a very long time or a very short time. I see no reason why the rock can't be a different age to the creation upon it.
I then believe God started creating and in producing the light started time upon the earth. The creation was complete within 6 days.
I believe Adam, Eve, the garden, the fall and the global flood was literal.
I believe in no death (people and animals with a soul) before sin and that the garden and perfection there was a sample to mankind of what the new earth will be like. I also believe God created it knowing it would last a very short time.
I don't see how a fall into sin and death or the spirit is possible with any form of evolution.
I have very little thoughts on the shape of the earth but from seeing the roundness of the moon I believe it is round. I honestly don't believe the shape is important.
I believe there was one single creation upon the earth and there will be one literal remake of it by fire. I believe what happened early shows a shadow or a muddy picture of what is to come. Like a folded painting I believe it is patterned from Old to New Testament. Adam was tempted and fell into sin -Jesus was tempted and did not sin. The Israelite's put lambs blood on the doorpost -Jesus is the lamb of the world who gave his blood for all. This is yet another reason why I don't believe in evolution. It simply does not fit into this pattern. If the end is a perfect world, for me the start must have also been a 'perfect world'.
I believe the creation on the earth is anywhere from 6-15 thousand years old. I don't follow James Usher. I don't think a person has to adhere strictly to 6 thousand years to be a young earth creationist. The man had doctrine I disagree with so I don't feel he is as trustworthy as many people think he is. I don't think the Bible is meant to be used like a calculator. However many thousands of years old the creation is, I believe it is relatively young.
I chose "other". I believe that God created the universe and the species that inhabit Earth over a very long span of time, using the mechanisms generally agreed upon by astronomers, physicists, geologists, and evolutionary biologists.
Again, they do not agree that the Saturday Sabbath still applies.
This means they do not believe that the keeping of the 4th commandment applies today.
God rested on the seventh day and God is still resting. This will give you an idea of how long the days of creation were.
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God rested on the seventh day and God is still resting. This will give you an idea of how long the days of creation were.
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Certainly it is true that "mutations do happen".
but a prokaryote will never turn into a eukaryote over time -- and we have direct observations of more than 75,000 generations to prove it ... the Bible is stating observable fact as it turns out...
A thousand years is as a day in the sight of the Lord. God's time is different from our time. It takes thousands of years for light to reach us from the stars and when Abram looked up at the stars in the heavens, the earth was already millions of years old. Take care.The Hebrew word yom and its plural form yamim are used over 1900 times in the Old Testament. . . . the two-hundred plus occurrences of yom preceded by ordinals all refer to a normal twenty-four hour day. Furthermore, the seven-hundred plus appearances of yamim always refer to a regular day (evening and morning).
yom ... evening and morning ... one day
The Lord created the 7th day ... as a day of rest for mankind .... blessed it and made it holy. The 7th day Sabbath is ONE day (per week)
He made the 7th day for MAN to rest from his labor (apart from) the other six literal days.
Exodus 31:15
For six days work may be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of complete rest, holy to the LORD. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day must surely be put to death.
Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy.
Exodos 20
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Obviously referring back to creation ... the 7th DAY.
Mark 2:27
New International Version
Then he (Jesus) said to them, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.
A thousand years is as a day in the sight of the Lord. God's time is different from our time. It takes thousands of years for light to reach us from the stars and when Abram looked up at the stars in the heavens, the earth was already millions of years old. Take care.
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