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SteveB28

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It has been said to me many times. The argument I have encountered (and I am not referring to this forum in particular) is that since science has discovered what we've descended from, this disproves a Creator.

I am in my 88th year. Much of my professional life dealt with those in science, both in research and in education.

In all that time I have never heard anyone who accepts evolutionary theory, theist or not, make such a statement.
 
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Okay, the teaching that we were not created by God because we are all descended for "a common ancestor" and that that common ancestor evolved over millions of years from single celled organisms.

What science teacher says that!? Yes, they will speak of common ancestry, but where are the teachers who then explain that this does away with a god?

I've never seen nor heard of one.
 
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amariselle

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The Bible was written by men so it's men you are putting your trust in, they said there was a God and you believe them,
that is entirely up to you, good luck.

The Bible is the inspired word of God, given to men directly from Him. It is God I am putting my trust in.
 
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amariselle

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What science teacher says that!? Yes, they will speak of common ancestry, but where are the teachers who then explain that this does away with a god?

I've never seen nor heard of one.

I have encountered this view many times.
 
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amariselle

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I realise that it's pointless even discussing this with you because your belief lowers your standards of evidence to rock bottom.
Text can not be evidence for obvious reason, text is the opinions of men, Spiderman does not exist just because it has been written down that he does.
I'm sure you don't believe in all the other texts written about all the other Gods in fact I'm sure you don't give them a second thought.

I have taken a world religions class and read various books. I grew up in the secular school system and I have met people of many different faiths. I enjoy science, as the study of the beautiful world God created. I am always learning something new, and I love that.

However, neither in science nor in any other faith have I found my Saviour. Yes, the Bible is a book, but it is not just any book, and God is not an action hero. I have a personal relationship with Jesus, He has changed my life and He has saved me.

What is pointless for you is to try and convince me otherwise. Or to infer that I and other Christians are somehow less intelligent than non-Christians. That would be wrong, and it is a very old argument that I'm sure most of us are tired of hearing. Nonetheless, you may choose to believe so if you like. It's easy to dismiss someone's faith and everything about them when you label them that way, I understand that. But it doesn't make you right and them wrong.
 
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Science teachers explaining to children that evolution means there is no God?

No, not science teachers in particular. I never said that.
 
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The Bible was written by men so it's men you are putting your trust in, they said there was a God and you believe them,
that is entirely up to you, good luck.
Wrong post
 
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As I said, I'm not a mod, but maybe we can get one to answer the question.

I definitely think it's time a mod dealt with some of what is going on.
 
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When God created the world and everything in it. And His creation brings Him glory.

Is the purpose of a single-cell organism to bring glory?
 
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I am in my 88th year.
You have my pity.
At your advanced age, you spend your time on a religious website dedicating your time to driving a wedge between Christians and their faith. I believe you will be quite horrified on judgement day. You scoff at this now but just remember we warned you. You are without excuse.

I pray you live long enough to see the evil in what you do and seek forgiveness from our Lord and Savior.
 
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Actually evolution is taught everywhere. I can't even watch a nature program without hearing about how our ancestors climbed out of the "primordial sludge" 2 billion years ago. (Or some such claim) And this is also true of nature museums and zoos.
Of course it is taught everywhere. It underpins our understanding of biology and is one the most successful theories in all of science. It's remarkable that, despite this, so many people still don't understand it.
 
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You have my pity.
At your advanced age, you spend your time on a religious website dedicating your time to driving a wedge between Christians and their faith. I believe you will be quite horrified on judgement day. You scoff at this now but just remember we warned you. You are without excuse.

I pray you live long enough to see the evil in what you do and seek forgiveness from our Lord and Savior.
Empty threads might persuade in Church, but not here.
 
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It's not dogma, as a Christian parts of our brain function that does not function for non christians. There is evidence for that when they scan the brain. Without religion mankind would all die off. Non religious people have a reprobate brain, they have not advanced and developed a regenerated brain the way people do that learn how to function in a loving, caring religious community.

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I addressed your faulty understanding of this here.
 
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