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David was called a man after Gods own heart when he was a teenager. and God chose him.
lets not get legalistic here. we can not keep salvation by working to earn it
Yes, and from his youth he continually turned to God when he sinned (and don't even begin to tell me he didn't sin in his youth).
No, you cannot. But you can lose it by ceasing to walk in the Light with Jesus. You do not earn salvation through works, but you do earn condemnation, and if you do not walk in the Light, then you cease to be cleansed by the blood of Jesus.
Yes, he is talking about someone who turned from the faith (and is at risk of losing his salvation (because he is described as dead)), but it also speaks of the one who is righteous who notices his brother having turned from the faith and going to restore him. This takes being aware, examining our brothers for error, and courage to address them with their fault.
Actually he sinned alot.
lol.. God said he will never leave us nor forsake us.. so...
He who does not believe is condemned already.
The person never had faith. thats the point. If they had faith, they never would have left (see 1 John)
lol. Yes. If I see a brother sin, i attempt to restore them so they can produce fruit again.
Yes, you do. Repentance is a continual, non-stop, life long process. It is like long distance flying. When you fly from, say New York to LA, you may start off 1 degree off course to the left. You correct, but go too far and are now off by 1 degree to the right. You continue that process until you reach the destination. It is the same with our spiritual life. We are continually stumbling off course to the left or right, and must continually turn back to God.
Then why did Paul, the mighty warrior for God, say that he continually wrestled his body under control so that after preaching (and saving) so many people, he himself would not be found unworthy of the prize (Heaven)(1 Cor 9:27).
You can. James 5:19-20 is very clear that if one of us sees a brother (someone already saved and in the faith) in a sin and turns him from it, he saves that soul from death (Hell). Now if one could not be lost after being saved, then the soul of the sinner would not be in danger of death. So either this verse is a lie, or a person can lose their salvation.
Not true at all. There are many who will leave. 2 Thes 2:3 says that a great apostasy must come before Jesus comes again. Has it already happened, I believe so, but the fact remains that an apostasy is the turning away by someone who is "in". One who is only pretending cannot be an apostate, because they were never "in" to turn away.
My children lose gifts (Christmas, birthday, etc.) they receive all the time. Children are born with gifts in music, art, etc. and lose those gifts because of lack of using them all the time. Gifts most certainly can be lost. And the gift of salvation is no different. OSAS is a false doctrine.
So how many times do you need to change your mind about the same old sin over and over before you start mocking god?
This is not what repent means
The prize is to be an apostle of God. a teacher. and one who brings people to God. He always was worried that he would do something that made him unqualified.
You can not lose a gift. You have eternal life. not conditional life.
we are witnessing it today,. the churches are dieing, the great apostacy is not people losing salvation. it is people walking away from God. ie, the children not following their parents religion. The adults not comming to the churches. and walking away.
lol. So now your going to compair the gift of life to an earthly gift you give your kids? Shame Shame
lol.. We are not talking about these. we are talking about a heavenly gift. paid in full
You in error
I have eternal life. You have conditional life
How many times did Jesus tell us to forgive our neighbor when they sin against us (Matt 18:22)
He already had the title, position, and authority of an Apostle. That is not the Prize for which he feared being disqualified. Heaven is the only Prize for which he was anxious.
Everyone who has been washed in the Blood of Jesus and who continues walking in the Light for the rest of their life is qualified for Heaven. It is not we who are qualified, but Jesus who lives in us, and we in Him, who is qualified.
You don't have eternal life until you are in eternity. Here we have the promise of eternal life, if we remain in the Light as He is in the Light.
The primary "death" with which Scripture deals is spiritual death. Unless it is clear that physical death is in view, it is ALWAYS best to see Scripture as speaking of spiritual death. And that is the case here. James is not saying "he may die" but that he is already dead, but you can save him by bringing him back.
That is exactly what apostasy is, my friend: being in Christ and walking away from Him.
But I no longer have any ability to use it. If I have no benefit from it, what good is it to me?
You want to believe in OSAS, go ahead, but don't cry to me at Judgement when you see many of your friends and loved-ones (and maybe yourself) cast into Hell because you trusted in that false doctrine.
That is the kind of thinking Paul was speaking against when he wrote Rom 6. If OSAS is true, then why not sin all the more, because once I am in the room (as it were), I cannot be kicked out again. So let's get saved, and then run riot with living however we want to live, doing all the old sins in all new ways.
most excellent passage. He told them to forgive them prety much every time
If he would have commited some serious sins, or stopped serving people. The title would have done him no good. He would have lost his ability. Because he would have lost his audience.
Are you washed in the blood or are you waiting to see if you continue to walk or not?
I have it now. Otherwise God lied.
No. We have the promise of eternal life the moment we recieved his free gift in faith.
Once again my friend.
there never has been any
lol. You see what you want to see. And you keep adding words to what i say and leaving out other things I have said that compliment it. So you are being dishonest.
I am done feeding you. You are dishonest. You always twist what people say, and you are unable to listen to what they say to understand what they say.
Thus is the whole world around us like this, with only a few, a remnant, to be honest.
When someone resorts to continue to do the same thing over and over, in spite of being told by many he is doing wrong. it is time to move on,
I have dealt with hi many times before. I keep hoping something will break through, but sadly, it always ends the same
