Do Genesis literalists also take the rest of the Bible literally?

[mzungu]

Mock as one may. Hell and the lake of fire wouldn't exist without the ones serving wickedness.

Wickedness itself doesn't exist, without it's faithful followers.

Rejoice you lovers of God, God is all goodness itself.

Pray tell me where in the Bible does it say that Hell is a lake of fire I am not contesting what you say; Just asking!

 

[someguy14]

Either God is all. Or he is not all. That includes wickedness; it is part of all.

God is all. All is good.

Wickedness doesn't have a place.

 

[Elendur]

God is all. All is good.

Wickedness doesn't have a place.

So wickedness is nothing?

 

[someguy14]

Pray tell me where in the Bible does it say that Hell is a lake of fire I am not contesting what you say; Just asking!

Hell is hell and the lake of fire is the lake of fire.

Hell is cast into the lake of fire.

When judgment day comes, hell is cast into the lake of fire. Also those that aren't written in the book of life are cast into the lake of fire and death itself is cast into the lake of fire. Death is an error and doesn't have a purpose in eternal life.

Wickedness doesn't exist without those that willfully serve wickedness.
God is all good. Those that serve wickedness, fight against goodness, life itself. Those that serve wickedness, choose to serve wickedness, by themselves, apart from God(goodness). God is good, God is blameless. Without wickedness(those that serve wickedness, make wickedness), there would be no need for the lake of fire. Yes God makes all, all is good. Those that fight against God, fight against goodness itself and fail. For goodness is eternal, in God. God alone. God is goodness. God(goodness), doesn't have need for wickedness. Wickedness=useless.

 

[someguy14]

So wickedness is nothing?

Wickedness=fake.
Wickedness=lie.

100% deleted. Worthless. Trash. Those that invest in wickedness have 100% chosen to cease from goodness itself(God).

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes. He loves you so much that he's willing to send you to eternal torment because you are unable to believe he exists while he hides from you.

I've seen why some people are 'unable to believe He exists,' and to be truthful, I wouldn't buy their excuses either.

 

[AV1611VET]

Rich man and Lazarus is true.

Indeed it is.

In the Old Testament, Paradise was next to Hell proper, but separated by a great gulf.

Today, Paradise is next to Heaven, and Hell now consists of Hell proper and the Great Gulf, which, if my eschatology is correct, will house Satan during the thousand years that Christ is ruling and reigning on the earth.

 

[AV1611VET]

Sending someone to hell for an infinite penance due to a finite crime, is reprehensible, and the antithesis of unconditional love.

God isn't going to send anyone to Hell that doesn't deserve to go.

 

[AV1611VET]

Pray tell me where in the Bible does it say that Hell is a lake of fire I am not contesting what you say; Just asking!

Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

 

[Elendur]

Wickedness=fake.
Wickedness=lie.

100% deleted. Worthless. Trash. Those that invest in wickedness have 100% chosen to cease from goodness itself(God).

Fake != nothing.
Lie != nothing.

Therefore, since you've defined wickedness as fake and/or lie, wickedness isn't nothing.

I refer you to the mathematical concept of set theory to why you can't exclude something, other than nothing, from the set of all:
Set theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[46AND2]

I've seen why some people are 'unable to believe He exists,' and to be truthful, I wouldn't buy their excuses either.

It's not for you to judge whether someone's reason for disbelief is valid or not, just because it doesn't make sense to you.

 

[46AND2]

God isn't going to send anyone to Hell that doesn't deserve to go.

Nobody deserves that. It's infinitely cruel.

 

[CabVet]

God isn't going to send anyone to Hell that doesn't deserve to go.

Ok AV, here are two people:

1. A serial killer that left 20 victims, half of them under the age of 10, he sexually abused all of his victims before killing them. He was caught after his 20th victim, spent 10 years in death row. Two months before his execution he converted to Christianity and repented.

2. A devout Muslim, never hurt a soul. Saved many lives through acts of heroism. Gave everything he had to charity. Because of his acts many children received proper education and access to health care. He lived a happy full life and died in piece, as a Muslim.

So, according to your religion, which one of the two people is going to hell and which is going to heaven? And which one deserves what?

 

[Golden Yak]

As I understand it, everyone deserves it.

 

[AV1611VET]

As I understand it, everyone deserves it.

You understand correctly ...

 

[CabVet]

You understand correctly ...

Ok, so you answered the second part of my question, both deserve to go. Now how about the first part? Which one is going? The serial killer convert or the Muslim?

 

[KWCrazy]

The kingdom of Heaven will welcome not only murderers who repent and seek salvation, but also Muslims and atheists as well. All sin is worthy of destruction. However, the gift of God is eternal life. None who are immersed in sin are more worthy than others who are immersed in sin.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Ok, so you answered the second part of my question, both deserve to go. Now how about the first part? Which one is going? The serial killer convert or the Muslim?

This may help answer your question. There are two resurrections; the first is for the predestined; the second for all the rest. Most believe that they either will be in the first resurrection or will be damned. Not true.

Revelation 20:4-6

4 "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This (verse 4 and 6) is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years."

The murderer and the Muslim will come up in the second resurrection.

 

[AV1611VET]

Ok, so you answered the second part of my question, both deserve to go. Now how about the first part? Which one is going? The serial killer convert or the Muslim?

Which one has the Blood of Christ applied to his account?

Hebrews 7:25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

 

[AV1611VET]

The murderer and the Muslim will come up in the second resurrection.

CabVet's murderer is Mary Poppins, compared to Saul of Tarsus; yet God saved Saul of Tarsus.

By comparison, the rich man in Luke 16 was a very religious man, even calling Abraham, "Father Abraham," yet he went to Hell.