Well, I tried to read it, but asked for me to allow cookies or some such thing that I usually decline. That's the 'how,' I asked for the 'where.'
You appear to be very confused again. I have no idea what you are getting at.Care to tell us which one, and quote the verse that placed them off-limits to human consumption, to the ridicule of academia?
So, I guess reporting a dangerous health situation isn’t the responsibility of governments (remember we were talking political denial, and instead blaming the U.S.), even though in all fairness some of their scientists went to jail for trying to do so.Oh the where. It started in China. So what?
Oh, there is no doubt that they should have reported it. But that is politics and not science. In fact a scientist that did report it got in big trouble. In fact he may have disappeared. I will have to double check that. Science is not to blame for the acts of politicians.So, I guess reporting a dangerous health situation isn’t the responsibility of governments (remember we were talking political denial, and instead blaming the U.S.), even though in all fairness some of their scientists went to jail for trying to do so.
No, I an tired of your QV's. Try again. From now on "QV" is merely you admitting that you are wrong again. At least when you respond to me.
One woman here in the U.S. did just that in 1960, in spite of her colleagues, and ended up diverting a major disaster.So, I guess reporting a dangerous health situation isn’t the responsibility of governments (remember we were talking political denial, and instead blaming the U.S.), even though in all fairness some of their scientists went to jail for trying to do so.
Nope, and I didn't say they were (or didn't mean to). I was just making a point when we got side-tracked on political denial.Oh, there is no doubt that they should have reported it. But that is politics and not science. In fact a scientist that did report it got in big trouble. In fact he may have disappeared. I will have to double check that. Science is not to blame for the acts of politicians.
You don't have to go look at Post 107.No, I an tired of your QV's. Try again. From now on "QV" is merely you admitting that you are wrong again. At least when you respond to me.
Then it may have been a misunderstanding on both our parts. I responded to a post of yours where it was pretty clear that you appeared be blaming scientists for the coronavirus. I will have to go back and take another look at that. There was no political denial.Nope, and I didn't say they were (or didn't mean to). I was just making a point when we got side-tracked on political denial.
Nah, you simply need to support your claims.You don't have to go look at Post 107.
I went ahead and told you you responded to it in Post 126.
That should tell you we've discussed this before.
TrueOne woman here in the U.S. did just that in 1960, in spite of her colleagues, and ended up diverting a major disaster.
And that is where I've realized that the undercurrent of science denialism that has fostered in places like the U.S. poses a real danger to society. The U.S. is living the consequences of it as we speak.
But, in regard to your last statement, the U.S. is primarily suffering the consequences of China’s recklessness with science.
There are numerous reasons for the bungled U.S. response to the pandemic, but the U.S. holds a lot of the blame. When compared to most other Western countries, the U.S. is doing far worse. That's not on China; that's on the U.S.
And no, China did not create coronavirus in a lab. Its origin was natural. It was found by using science:
I guess there's political denial here too.
Only if you are talking about yourself. You probably do not realize that other countries did not take China at its word and analyzed the virus itself to see where it came from. It did not come from a Chinese lab. Do you have any source that is not a wacko conspiracy source that says that the Chinese made it in a lab?
Where do you think it started?
It existed in animals first and a variation was able to cross over to humans. That is what the evidence tells us. You should have read the article. No need for a lab. This happens quite often. Some viruses do this regularly. The flu for example, it goes through different animal species and comes back every year changed a bit as a result. That is why we keep getting the flu.
Well, I tried to read it, but asked for me to allow cookies or some such thing that I usually decline. That's the 'how,' I asked for the 'where.'
Oh the where. It started in China. So what?
So, I guess reporting a dangerous health situation isn’t the responsibility of governments (remember we were talking political denial, and instead blaming the U.S.), even though in all fairness some of their scientists went to jail for trying to do so.
Oh, there is no doubt that they should have reported it. But that is politics and not science. In fact a scientist that did report it got in big trouble. In fact he may have disappeared. I will have to double check that. Science is not to blame for the acts of politicians.
Nope, and I didn't say they were (or didn't mean to). I was just making a point when we got side-tracked on political denial.
Nope, don't see it. Said China's recklessness with science, and even gave credit to some scientists there for trying to report the problem.Then it may have been a misunderstanding on both our parts. I responded to a post of yours where it was pretty clear that you appeared be blaming scientists for the coronavirus. I will have to go back and take another look at that. There was no political denial.
I guess there's political denial here too.
But they were not "reckless with science". Once again you conflate politics and science. The error is still yours. There was no "political denial" by me. I don't know why you even made that false accusation. My post was merely stating that the Chinese did not create the problem as you earlier implied through science. Technically they did not even create the problem by covering it up at first. It is all but impossible to stop such a virus from spreading before its existence is known. Even by the time that the Chinese knew about it, and should have acted, it was too late.Nope, don't see it. Said China's recklessness with science, and even gave credit to some scientists there for trying to report the problem.
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