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The scripture says without the spirit the flesh and blood body is dead.I was having this discussion with a brother yesterday ! He asked me if I thought children went to heaven : So I gave him the verse that came to my mind and it was : Except a man be born again he cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven : So I said to him that a baby obviously has not been born again because he is just too young! I askef him if there were any verses that specifically state that a baby has a spirit : we could not find any : or verses that say babies go to heaven ! Both of us don't believe that babies go to hell though we could not find a single verse that specifically states this so there it is : what saist thou ?
Is there an age where you stop being saved and start being destined to hell if you do not repent?Yes. This is what the Parable of the Prodigal Son is all about. We were once in the father's favor as a baby and when we grew up and went prodigal (By having the knowledge on our own to sin), we eventually in time then came back to the Lord (willing to repent or to seek the Lord's forgiveness) and be renewed (born again) and saved again back to the Father and his care.
For the father said two times in the Parable that his son was "dead" and is "alive again."
Now, how can he be alive again if he was never really dead physically?
Well, the parable is talking in spiritual terms (of course).
The prodigal son was spiritually dead when he was living in sin (i.e. when he was prodigal) and only when he came back home and when he repented (i.e. seeking forgiveness) was he said to be... "alive again" or "found."
...Both of us don't believe that babies go to hell though we could not find a single verse that specifically states this so there it is : what saist thou ?
I believe that everyone who has repented of their sin is already in heaven.I was having this discussion with a brother yesterday ! He asked me if I thought children went to heaven : So I gave him the verse that came to my mind and it was : Except a man be born again he cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven : So I said to him that a baby obviously has not been born again because he is just too young! I askef him if there were any verses that specifically state that a baby has a spirit : we could not find any : or verses that say babies go to heaven ! Both of us don't believe that babies go to hell though we could not find a single verse that specifically states this so there it is : what saist thou ?
“Their angels always behold the FATHER’s face” (look up that verse)I was having this discussion with a brother yesterday ! He asked me if I thought children went to heaven : So I gave him the verse that came to my mind and it was : Except a man be born again he cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven : So I said to him that a baby obviously has not been born again because he is just too young! I askef him if there were any verses that specifically state that a baby has a spirit : we could not find any : or verses that say babies go to heaven ! Both of us don't believe that babies go to hell though we could not find a single verse that specifically states this so there it is : what saist thou ?
Romans 9:18-20 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills. (19) You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” (20) But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?”
Is there an age where you stop being saved and start being destined to hell if you do not repent?
Romans 9:18-20 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills,
Yes, and I believe that God wills to show mercy to everyone, because he is love.
NOT, that everyone will be saved; but that as many people as possible get to hear the Gospel, and everyone who hears it, is given an opportunity to respond.
Jesus said that God is a loving, heavenly Father, Luke 11:11-13, and that he is perfect, Matthew 5:48.
John says that God IS love, 1 John 4:8.
What father would say of his children; "I made you, you died before you could know me, so I'm condemning you for not knowing me - even though it wasn't your choice not to know me"? We wouldn't give such a man "Father of the year"; we'd most likely report them for abuse/neglect. Why think that of God?
Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, No age limit there. Nothing about knowing God or not knowing Him.
I cannot quote you chapter and verse and hope you will pardon me for not. I am at work on break and wanted to answer this way. I knew when I reached the age of responsibility. Nobody told me and nobody called me out. I knew that wakening moment when it happened and I also knew that I wanted, with all of my heart, to be with Christ and not with the world. In that transition I also knew that had I died before that moment I would have been with Christ, but now that I knew the difference between right and wrong the decision I had to make was mine and mine alone. I later learned the teachings of Christ and I do believe that it is well covered in scripture. In that context, what is the difference between a child who does not know right from wrong, and a young adult in their twenties who has been afflicted with palsy or similar where they can't possibly know? Do they all go to hell? No. Our sin is the act of turning our back on God. Rejecting him. Rejecting Jesus. Rejecting and blaspheme of the Holy Spirit. How can a child reject Christ if they have not yet understood right from wrong of their own volition?I was having this discussion with a brother yesterday ! He asked me if I thought children went to heaven : So I gave him the verse that came to my mind and it was : Except a man be born again he cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven : So I said to him that a baby obviously has not been born again because he is just too young! I askef him if there were any verses that specifically state that a baby has a spirit : we could not find any : or verses that say babies go to heaven ! Both of us don't believe that babies go to hell though we could not find a single verse that specifically states this so there it is : what saist thou ?
If babies do not sin they do not need to be saved, but are in a save condition. The sinner needs salvation. The Bible does not address those in a save condition.
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