Do angels wear sackcloths?

[timewerx]

This is a real question because I have the ability to briefly "see" spirits.

I don't really see them directly but I have a God-given gift of occasionally seeing animal and people's thoughts briefly. This means I could read spirits too if they come close. But it doesn't work all the time. I could not just read people or spirits anytime I want. But it seems the ability is more consistent and reliable with spirits.

A short summary of these "angels":

I've been visited by before a few times over the years in my whole life by these spirits that seem to be like 12 year old children dressed in oversized sackcloth with a hood which obscured their faces. They visit me when I'm very sick and seem to try to heal me. They visit me when there's an evil spirit bothering me to cast out the spirit. And they also visit me when I'm deeply distressed.

It recently come to my attention that their visits are becoming much more regular and much longer. But they never talk to me and always try to keep out of my way..

The fact they are perfectly harmless, even helps me when I'm sick and where there are evil spirits. I'm beginning to think they are angels....

...But they wear sackcloth. And there's maybe always two or three of them whenever they visit me.

...Problem is I couldn't find any reference to angels wearing sackcloths online... Only ones I keep finding are the two witnesses wearing sackcloths in Revelations 11

..I need answers if anyone has

But it doesn't bother me anyhow if angels would be wearing sackcloths. It could be a sign of their mourning of how the world has now been corrupted.

 

[timewerx]

I apologize in advance if this is the wrong place to post topics like these but I couldn't find any subforums dedicated for actual spiritual encounters of the paranormal sort.

I couldn't post this in dreams, visions, prophetic because this topic is neither of the three. thanks for any answers you may give!

 

[EazyMack]

Couldn't tell ya.

Never seen one. That I know of.

 

[graciesings]

Hmm. Haven't met any, but that doesn't mean they aren't there... PM me if you want to discuss the stuff you (or I) have seen, I don't like talking about the spirit world where everyone is reading it.

 

[Autumnleaf]

Only when they are sad. Most of the time they are very stylishly dressed, except for the naked Cherubin.

 

[timewerx]

Only when they are sad. Most of the time they are very stylishly dressed, except for the naked Cherubin.

I'm curious where you got this info.

The one that cast out an evil spirit that was bothering me was wearing a black hooded overalls with red, metallic patterns and is a woman. I was neither sick, nor sad during those times so the suspected angel wore something nicer?

The ones that appeared when I'm very sick or very depressed wore sackcloths and never said a word.

In all instances, what they wore loose clothing with hood which obscured their figure and faces.

Hmm. Haven't met any, but that doesn't mean they aren't there... OM me if you want to discuss the stuff you (or I) have seen, I don't like talking about the spirit world where everyone is reading it.

Okay

 

[PersephonesTear]

This is a real question because I have the ability to briefly "see" spirits.

I don't really see them directly but I have a God-given gift of occasionally seeing animal and people's thoughts briefly. This means I could read spirits too if they come close. But it doesn't work all the time. I could not just read people or spirits anytime I want. But it seems the ability is more consistent and reliable with spirits.

Not to cut out everything else you said, buuuut...

I have never seen an angel. I do tend to have a very accurate "feel" for people's (and animals') thoughts and moods. I do sense spirits. But never an angel.

So, if you have experience with angels, then... I'd say you can answer the question of what they wear better than anyone else can.

I submit this to you for consideration, though: What you are "seeing" is not the being itself, but rather the way in which your brain perceives the being. So if angels are wearing sackcloth, then for some reason you perceive them as wearing that. It must have some meaning to you, or else why would they appear that way? I imagine that, in actual fact, an angel can wear whatever he or she wants to wear.

 

[sinning machine]

It is quiet obvious you are being deceived and suffering strong delusion.

1 Timothy 4:1

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2 Thessalonians 2:10-12

And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved, And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

 

[timewerx]

I have never seen an angel. I do tend to have a very accurate "feel" for people's (and animals') thoughts and moods. I do sense spirits. But never an angel.

So, if you have experience with angels, then... I'd say you can answer the question of what they wear better than anyone else can.

Good to hear another who is sensitive to spirits. I can't be 100% certain they are angels. I only think they are angels based on the fact that they don't do anything to deceive or seduce me or bloat my ego, in fact, they never spoke to me directly, one cast out an evil spirit in a language that I can't recognize, the rest never said a word, they keep out of my way, they have demonstrated the ability for miraculous healing and casting out of evil spirits.

They might also be prophets of God.

I submit this to you for consideration, though: What you are "seeing" is not the being itself, but rather the way in which your brain perceives the being. So if angels are wearing sackcloth, then for some reason you perceive them as wearing that. It must have some meaning to you, or else why would they appear that way? I imagine that, in actual fact, an angel can wear whatever he or she wants to wear.

I saw them in the same apparel many years apart between "sightings".

If there's any meaning to this, I wish I'll know but the only solid reference I have is Revelations 11 which is about the two witnesses who are dressed in sackcloth who will prophesy against this evil generation.

I think this evil generation can be enough reason to wear a sackcloth. If they are angels, and to appear in sackcloth may also be a sign that end of this age is drawing near.

 

[timewerx]

It is quiet obvious you are being deceived and suffering strong delusion.

1 Timothy 4:1

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

That's why I'm asking other people....

But realize this. They never spoke to me so how can they teach me doctrines of devils??

They wore loose and hooded overalls which covered their hands and feet, obscured their figure and faces so how can they seduce me??

 

[joey_downunder]

Where in the bible does it say we will be visited by angels all the time?

Are they bringing glory to God Himself?
Are they keeping your mind on JESUS?

https://bible.org/article/angelology-doctrine-angels
Look at the description of their appearance - does any angel in the bible wear hooded clothes or hide their faces?

 

[timewerx]

Where in the bible does it say we will be visited by angels all the time?

Visited in 1994 only few minutes, 2008 less than a minute, yesterday, few hours.

I don't think that's all the time. And they never spoke to me about anything everytime they visit. I get all divine teachings from the Holy Spirit, never from an angel yet, not even prophecies.

Are they bringing glory to God Himself?

They healed me of a disease which nearly killed me, shocked me out of my deppression, and drove away an evil spirit which is trying to harm me.

They are doing the works of God as Jesus did to glorify the Father!

Are they keeping your mind on JESUS?

Couldn't be better with drab sackclothing, obscuring their faces, figure, and extremities never speaking to me and trying their best to remain invisible in my presence!

The Holy Spirit speaks to me, but never the angels. The angels are really doing a great job keeping my mind to Jesus.

https://bible.org/article/angelology-doctrine-angels
Look at the description of their appearance - does any angel in the bible wear hooded clothes or hide their faces?

Hiding one's face isn't always a sign of evil. God also hid His face to people who are not of His flock.

And if angels have pretty faces, it's absolutely wise to hide their faces for obvious reasons!

 

[Inkachu]

I don't think these are angels.

 

[Inkachu]

Which makes no sense. Angels don't have to "try and hide". We already know from the Bible that evil spirits can appear good, but good spirits (angels) will never appear evil. Wearing black, covering their faces, never speaking, and "trying to hide" would be enough for me to believe these were not angels.

 

[timewerx]

Which makes no sense. Angels don't have to "try and hide".

Yes they do and it is often necessary 2 Kings 6:17.

And if they are visually attractive, it would better if they can obscure it to avoid inspiring lust or unmerited attraction for their "physical beauty". They achieved practically the same effect in Sodom and Gomorrah by making people blind!

They certainly don't want people to pay attention to them but God only.

So yeah, it makes sense.

We already know from the Bible that evil spirits can appear good, but good spirits (angels) will never appear evil. Wearing black, covering their faces, never speaking, and "trying to hide" would be enough for me to believe these were not angels.

Only one of them was wearing black who appeared to be a woman. She never appeared to me again.

Those who has visited me multiple times are the ones wearing sackcloth. Sackcloth is not black, and the two witnesses in the Bible will be wearing sackcloth, so wearing sackcloth is not necessarily evil.

They don't completely cover their faces, just obscured by a hood as I've mentioned a couple of times before.

It also makes sense for them not to speak since I already hear what I need from the Holy Spirit. I don't need to hear anything from them, nor expecting any message that will come through them. Everything seems to fall into place.

 

[Inkachu]

First of all, I'm starting to wonder if you're simply trolling or baiting with this thread, because you ask for opinions, but you're arguing with anyone who presents a view that's different from yours.

You also aren't being very honest, if what you're saying is true. You said earlier that these experiences are becoming "much more regular", then later admit it's only happened three times in 20 years.

Yes they do and it is often necessary 2 Kings 6:17.

That verse has nothing to do with angels "hiding" (ie being invisible) out of necessity. It was actually the opposite, Elisha prayed for his servants' eyes to be able to see the angels encamped around their army because he was afraid of defeat by the enemy. Were the angels skulking around in hooded robes, as if they didn't want to be seen? No.

And if they are visually attractive, it would better if they can obscure it to avoid inspiring lust or unmerited attraction for their "physical beauty"

Angels have appeared as human beings several times (Genesis 19, Hebrews 13:2). They seem perfectly capable of masquerading as ordinary people when it's required. So again, your point isn't valid. Nowhere in Scripture do you see a glorious, glowing angel covered up in a robe or anything of the sort. They're either shown in their full glory, or disguised as men in order to do their work.

They certainly don't want people to pay attention to them but God only.

Where do you get this idea from? If angels didn't want people to pay attention to them, why would they appear and speak to people? Angels are God's ministers, delivering messages and carrying out His work here on earth and in Heaven. They certainly don't "hide", they're simply invisible to our earthly eyes most of the time.

So yeah, it makes sense.

Nah... it really doesn't.

Only one of them was wearing black who appeared to be a woman. She never appeared to me again.

And the point is...?

Those who has visited me multiple times are the ones wearing sackcloth. Sackcloth is not black, and the two witnesses in the Bible will be wearing sackcloth, so wearing sackcloth is not necessarily evil.

They don't completely cover their faces, just obscured by a hood as I've mentioned a couple of times before.

I didn't say sackcloth was evil. And not that it matters, but it CAN be black (Rev 6:12).

What do the two witnesses have to do with it?

Nowhere in Scripture are angels portrayed wearing black/sackcloth/hoods.

Trying to split hairs between "covered" and "obscured" is pretty pointless. They're synonymous.

It also makes sense for them not to speak since I already hear what I need from the Holy Spirit. I don't need to hear anything from them, nor expecting any message that will come through them. Everything seems to fall into place.

No, it doesn't make sense, since angels in the Bible always either bring a message OR have a clear purpose (eg, the angel armies that appeared to Elisha's servant). Show me one bit of Scripture where angels were shadowy, lurking figures that did nothing but confuse believers.

You won't find any.

 

[timewerx]

First of all, I'm starting to wonder if you're simply trolling or baiting with this thread, because you ask for opinions, but you're arguing with anyone who presents a view that's different from yours.

You also aren't being very honest, if what you're saying is true. You said earlier that these experiences are becoming "much more regular", then later admit it's only happened three times in 20 years.

My mistake is that I should have made it clear from the beginning that I only need answers from those who also had frequent experiences, contacts, sightings with any spirit.

Especially those who can perceive spirits.

It seem pointless arguing with those who has very little experience with spirits and could not perceive them. No offense.

I'll try to have this thread closed and open up a new one.

Wish we had a subforum just for those who had frequent experiences and seeing spirits.

 

[asiyreh]

Angels were messengers of God in the old covenant. Used to deliver the law and even manifest the very presence of God.

As Christians we are to test all spirits, by the word of God - Old and new as seen through the lens of Christ and the apostles in the New Covenant.

If these spirits ask you to do anything. You seek the advise of a trusted Church elder if not your pastor/priest.

Now onto the thing itself. Sackcloth is a sign of repentance, The Jews would often do this in a form of penance toward God.

Now you could understand this dream to mean these spirits or angels are repentant. But angels don't get repentant as far as I'm aware. We make decisions in this time. Sometimes good sometimes bad. Angels make decisions outside of time. The ones that turned away from God prefer destruction rather than to obey God's will.

So you must then look at the dream as something you are expressing in yourself. You are the angels whos done a little stuff you're in need of repenting for.

 

[timewerx]

No, it doesn't make sense, since angels in the Bible always either bring a message OR have a clear purpose (eg, the angel armies that appeared to Elisha's servant).

They heal me when I'm terribly sick, shock me out of depression, cast an evil spirit away.

Isn't that a clear purpose enough?

Show me one bit of Scripture where angels were shadowy, lurking figures that did nothing but confuse believers.

If I saw them in their full glory, that could have stolen my attention from Jesus...

Why can't you understand that?

Why do you think many of God's prophets wore drab clothing like John the Baptist, Elijah, the two witnesses, etc?

Why did God not provided them with fine articles of clothing?

And God's prophets has often served the function of angels and in many occasions, demonstrated abilities that were unique to angels only.

While it may not be found in the Bible, nor a clear reference is available, Angels wearing drab clothing doesn't contradict the moral logic of God's Words also by the simple fact that one of God's mightiest people - the prophets wore drab clothing.

 

[asiyreh]

Bible Search: sackcloth

Have a look at some of these - You should find it's:-

Sin, repentance,(sackcloth), restoration of communion with God.

The typology is almost always the same. I'm more concerned about you though, just be careful ok? The scriptures are the Word of The Lord. Don't go trying to find answers in dreams.

If you do feel lead to do this however, test these dreams in the Holy light of scripture. Go to your pastor or priest, please seek advice on this.