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Featured Do aborted infants go to heaven?

Discussion in 'Debates on Abortion' started by Prisoner No. 6, Jun 9, 2019.

  1. Prisoner No. 6

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    I don't believe that children that die before they make a profession of faith in Christ go to heaven
     
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  2. myst33

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    Who exactly should go to heaven when they have no personality, yet? Are they even self-aware?
     
  3. Beloved2018

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    Then where do they go? Hell?
     
  4. Beloved2018

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    I know a lot of adults who have no personality and are not self-aware.
     
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  5. myst33

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    But you can at least distinguish them one from another... or not? :scratch:
     
  6. redleghunter

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    Were you saved by a profession of faith or by Grace?
     
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  7. Lazarus Short

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    Is Jesus the Christ not the Savior of All?
     
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  8. Danielwright2311

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    Yes they do, 100 percent.

    And on top of that truth, when we all go to heaven, we will be transformed into little children.
     
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  9. myst33

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    And Peter will be transformed into a literal small stone.
     
  10. Danielwright2311

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    Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

    Nothing there about being transformed to a stone.
     
  11. myst33

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    I was just making a little fun of your literalism.
     
  12. doctorwho29

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    The Bible never, ever, in any place or form, refers to small children in Hell. King David spoke of how he would join his infant son in Heaven and Jesus said that the Kingdom of Heaven was made for little children. The Bible very much supports baby's and small children not yet fully conscious of sin going to Heaven.
     
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  13. myst33

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    Can you quote him?

    Because people in the OT did not have a concept of "going to heaven". They had only a belief in the resurrection.
     
  14. doctorwho29

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    This is from 2 Samuel 12:
    19 David noticed that his attendants were whispering among themselves, and he realized the child was dead. “Is the child dead?” he asked.

    “Yes,” they replied, “he is dead.”

    20 Then David got up from the ground. After he had washed, put on lotions and changed his clothes, he went into the house of the Lord and worshiped. Then he went to his own house, and at his request they served him food, and he ate.

    21 His attendants asked him, “Why are you acting this way? While the child was alive, you fasted and wept, but now that the child is dead, you get up and eat!”

    22 He answered, “While the child was still alive, I fasted and wept. I thought, ‘Who knows? The Lord may be gracious to me and let the child live.’23 But now that he is dead, why should I go on fasting? Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me.”
     
  15. myst33

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    Yeah... where do you see "heaven"?
     
  16. doctorwho29

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    Why exactly would David think he was going to Hell? Why would he end his grieving if he was going to be ruinited in Hell?
     
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  17. Danielwright2311

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    Why?:sorry:
     
  18. myst33

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    In the OT, there is no concept of hell or heaven for the afterlife. They had only sheol - a place where everybody went, a "dreamy" state, a waiting room for resurrection and judgement.
     
  19. doctorwho29

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    What about Jesus many times referring to children and Heaven in the same context? It all adds up to one conclusion...especially when you include the very nature of God
     
  20. myst33

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    Well, its simple - David did not mean heaven, because they did not have such concept. If you want to talk about Jesus, its a different topic. Jesus used many concepts not known to the OT writers.
     
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