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DNA Tests Clear Wrongfully Convicted Half-Brothers After 30 Years

GarfieldJL

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Quite true.

Mentally disabled teens being questioned by cops, without any legal representation?

Sure, sounds like the right way to get a confession to me.

I'm a supporter of the death penalty, but I also support there being a lot of chances to appeal, because I want to be darn sure the person being executed is actually guilty of what they were convicted of.

Based on the new evidence and what I now know of the case, I'd say there is a good possibility the two brothers were wrongly convicted.
 
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MachZer0

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Noting said cops sticking to their story is not surprising.
Sticking to the truth should never be surprising. Changing one's story trying to save one's rear end shouldn't be surprising either. So it isn't much of a surprise that some stories did change
 
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Sticking to the truth should never be surprising. Changing one's story trying to save one's rear end shouldn't be surprising either. So it isn't much of a surprise that some stories did change

You mean you have never heard of guilty people professing their innocence? You actually find such an act to be surprising?
 
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Sticking to the truth should never be surprising. Changing one's story trying to save one's rear end shouldn't be surprising either. So it isn't much of a surprise that some stories did change

Well, the latest evidence tells a different tale, of how likely it is the cops got the truth.
 
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Sticking to the truth should never be surprising. Changing one's story trying to save one's rear end shouldn't be surprising either. So it isn't much of a surprise that some stories did change

Are you for the practice of cops interrogating mentally handicapped teens without legal representation?
 
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Sticking to the truth should never be surprising. Changing one's story trying to save one's rear end shouldn't be surprising either. So it isn't much of a surprise that some stories did change


Are you claiming that you know the truth in this case?
 
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We know that the two perps are liars. That tells us a lot.

If the two brothers are mentally handicapped and were not give legal council prior to the confessions, then it really looks like the police involved in the original case and the original prosecutor have both been caught lieing.
 
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Considering The Death Penalty: Your Tax Dollars At Work
5/01/2014

- on April 29, 2014, the state of Oklahoma attempted to carry out that verdict. But things went horribly wrong. The botched execution – which took over 40 minutes – has renewed questions about the use of the death penalty.

- the actual execution costs taxpayers fairly little: while most states remain mum on the cost of lethal injections because of privacy concerns from pharmaceutical companies, it’s estimated that the drugs run about $100 (the Texas Department of Criminal Justice put the cost of their drug cocktails at $83 in 2011). However, the outside costs associated with the death penalty are disproportionately higher.

- “It’s 10 times more expensive to kill them than to keep them alive,”says Donald McCartin, known as The Hanging Judge of Orange County. McCartin knows a little bit about executions: he has sent nine men to death row.

- in Idaho, the State Appellate Public Defenders office spent about 44 times more time on a typical death penalty appeal than on a life sentence appeal (downloads as a pdf): almost 8,000 hours per capital defendant compared to about 180 hours per non-death penalty defendant.

- New York state projected that the death penalty costs the state $1.8 million per case just through trial and initial appeal.

- in Kansas, housing prisoners on death row costs more than twice as much per year ($49,380) as for prisoners in the general population ($24,690).

- in California, incarceration costs for death penalty prisoners totaled more than $1 billion from 1978 to 2011 (total costs outside of incarceration were another $3 billion). By the numbers, the annual cost of the death penalty in the state of California is $137 million compared to the cost of lifetime incarceration of $11.5 million.

- citing Richard C. Dieter of the Death Penalty Information Center, Fox reported that studies have “uniformly and conservatively shown that a death-penalty trial costs $1 million more than one in which prosecutors seek life without parole.”

- an Urban Institute study found that “n Maryland death penalty cases cost 3 times more than non-death penalty cases, or $3 million for a single case” while a 2004 Report from Tennessee Comptroller of the Treasury Office of Research that claimed

- in Tennessee, death penalty trials cost an average of 48% more than the average cost of trials in which prosecutors seek life imprisonment.”

- a 2010 Duke University study found that taxpayers in the Tarheel State could save $11 million a year by substituting life in prison for the death penalty.

- prior to the abolishing the death penalty in the state, a report by New Jersey Policy Perspectives found that “New Jersey taxpayers over the last 23 years have paid more than a quarter billion dollars on a capital punishment system that has executed no one.”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyph...g-the-death-penalty-your-tax-dollars-at-work/

DNA Tests Clear Wrongfully Convicted Half-Brothers After 30 Years

Not only is the death penalty inherently cruel and leaves no room for error to correct an erroneous conviction, it makes no economic sense for cash strapped levels of government.
 
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Not only does the death penalty inherently cruel and leaves no room for error to correct an erroneous conviction, it makes no economic sense for cash strapped levels of government.

Agree. From what I understand, death penalties, are most costly than life in prison sentences. Also, I don't believe it is a deterrent anyway.
 
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We know that the two perps are liars. That tells us a lot.


You seem to keep giving me answers to questions I did not ask instead of answering the ones I did. Some might see that as deceptive. Are you claiming to know the truth in this case?
 
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You seem to keep giving me answers to questions I did not ask instead of answering the ones I did. Some might see that as deceptive. Are you claiming to know the truth in this case?
Some of the truth, yes. I'm not privy to all the facts. The truth is that the only evidence presented is that a cigarette butt was found. Hardly earth shattering
 
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Some of the truth, yes. I'm not privy to all the facts. The truth is that the only evidence presented is that a cigarette butt was found. Hardly earth shattering

*Sigh*

As has been stated a zillion times, there were the coerced confessions that in of themselves were not factually correct. You seem hung up on the confessions, when the confessions themselves weren't correct!

Thank goodness we don't have you deciding these things. Thankfully justice prevailed in this case.
 
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