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DNA Code Indicates Creator

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I know, it's like what do true Christians hurt? Why are these people trying to convince us we should not be someone who at least tries to do good, especially with all the bad in the world? What do they care if we've deluded ourselves? how could that, if it were a fact possibly hurt us or anyone else on the planet?

Honestly, them doing as they do here is about as funny as DNA just kinda happening on it's own. :)
Some atheists I encountered revealed that they had been traumatized by over-religious parents during childhood and thus developed a strong aversion to all things religious.
 
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It's not neccessary to get new material, creationists have been trotting out the same stuff since I joined this place a decade ago.

The big bang is a complicated subject. I could post you sources that explain it, but you'd propably brush them away, so why bother?
 
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I just did actually watch the video, and it's beyond stunning how unbelievers can be in such sheer denial.


I have seen that sort of video way too many times.

It is stunning how many creationists can be convinced by an argument from ignorance.
 
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Some atheists I encountered revealed that they had been traumatized by over-religious parents during childhood and thus developed a strong aversion to all things religious.

That is a possibility. And those sort of atheists are the most likely to go back to being Christians. You will probably find that is not the case here. The atheists here appear to be atheists because they can reason.

Reason is the enemy of faith.
 
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Some atheists I encountered revealed that they had been traumatized by over-religious parents during childhood and thus developed a strong aversion to all things religious.

Maybe that's all there is to it, or they had no God at all.
 
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Maybe that's all there is to it, or they had no God at all.


Nah, you should not attempt to libel those that you do not know. In fact it is against the rules here. I can no more claim that you are a Christian for false reasons than you can claim I am an atheist for false reasons.

Most of the atheists here can reason. Most of the creationists simply cannot.
 
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It is stunning how many creationists can be convinced by an argument from ignorance.

Seemed perfectly sound to me.

Tell me, do you think Atheists present that same argument of ignorance here, and often enough, that it might be a good idea to just toss it out of the picture as a favorite, and often (like now) nonsensical defense?

See since both sides do it, if kind of cancels itself out as useful, or even smart/sensible to go there. Or would that leave a side with so little defense as it is so much less, it's worth it to be seen being just what the Christians are being accused of?

This is one reason I suggest new material, that way we don't have to hear the same ol same ol that in reality does no one any good.
 
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Nah, you should not attempt to libel those that you do not know. In fact it is against the rules here. I can no more claim that you are a Christian for false reasons than you can claim I am an atheist for false reasons.

Most of the atheists here can reason. Most of the creationists simply cannot.
“Reason is a harlot, the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but more frequently than not struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God.”

Martin Luther
 
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The big bang is a complicated subject. I could post you sources that explain it,

Oh, come on, they explain their opinion of what they think could have happened, and often a jaded Atheists opinion.
 
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Oh, come on, they explain their opinion of what they think could have happened, and often a jaded Atheists opinion.
See? Brushed it off. It's just opinions, and atheist opinions to boot, the least kind of opinions.
 
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Seemed perfectly sound to me.

But you have continually demonstrated a lack of education in these matters. That is why you are so easily swayed with nonsense that appeals to your personal prejudices.

Tell me, do you think Atheists present that same argument of ignorance here, and often enough, that it might be a good idea to just toss it out of the picture as a favorite, and often (like now) nonsensical defense?

That is easy. Creationists continually make the same mistakes so we continually make the same corrections. I offered a challenge to you that was based upon reason. You had a chance to show that you could argue and reason logically. You never took me up on it.

See since both sides do it, if kind of cancels itself out as useful, or even smart/sensible to go there. Or would that leave a side with so little defense as it is so much less, it's worth it to be seen being just what the Christians are being accused of?

Do what? We do not make the same gross errors that creationists do.

This is one reason I suggest new material, that way we don't have to hear the same ol same ol that in reality does no one any good.

Yes, it would be nice if creationists could come up with something new instead of the countless PRATT's that they post here. I do agree with you on that.
 
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See? Brushed it off. It's just opinions, and atheist opinions to boot, the least kind of opinions.

Yet you didn't disagree, it is opinion and it means little to nothing. And they aren't explanations as you would have me believe. To be a true exoplanation, it would have to explain known fact. and it's far from that..

I brushed off this knat flying around my face to, but predicting I will do so, doesn't make the knat anymore useful, it only makes it sensible I would brush it off.

It's simply not going to do anyone any good, but you never disagreed with that either.
 
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Yet you didn't disagree, it is opinion and it means little to nothing. And they aren't explanations as you would have me believe. To be a true exoplanation, it would have to explain known fact. and it's far from that..

I brushed off this knat flying around my face to, but predicting I will do so, doesn't make the knat anymore useful, it only makes it sensible I would brush it off.

It's simply not going to do anyone any good, but you never disagreed with that either.
Yeah, you go and chalk this up as a victory for all I care.
 
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But you have continually demonstrated a lack of education in these matters. That is why you are so easily swayed with nonsense that appeals to your personal prejudices.

Like I said, get some new material, "you just don't underrstand" was never going to cut it for long, and you should have known that.

I offered a challenge to you that was based upon reason

What challenge? if you are talikng about something from a week or so ago, what was the reason I didn't accept? or does it work better for you to leave that out. Besides I've seen these "chalenges" before and there is nothing challenging qabout them, they always amount to opinion, but eitherer way, back to the reason I didn't accept? what was that? seems there was omne but I forget.

That is easy. Creationists continually make the same mistakes so we continually make the same corrections. I offered a challenge to you that was based upon reason. You had a chance to show that you could argue and reason logically. You never took me up on it.

Musta not been that easy, you completly evaded the question. lol
 
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Like I said, get some new material, "you just don't underrstand" was never going to cut it for long, and you should have known that.

It is not my fault if those on your side keep demonstrating that they have no understanding of science at all. What am I supposed to do when creationists refuse to even try to learn. Most of them do not even understand the concept of evidence and they run away when offers are made to help them with that problem.


What challenge? if you are talikng about something from a week or so ago, what was the reason I didn't accept? or does it work better for you to leave that out. Besides I've seen these "chalenges" before and there is nothing challenging qabout them, they always amount to opinion, but eitherer way, back to the reason I didn't accept? what was that? seems there was omne but I forget.

I have no clue why you ran away. I am not a mind reader. You did pop in on Radrook's thread that covered the same material and spewed some nonsense. The challenge was an easy one. I posted a photo that alone refuted the flood claims of most believers (I won't say all since there are a variety of flood beliefs out there). From your posts that I have seen it refutes your beliefs as well.

Musta not been that easy, you completly evaded the question. lol

Maybe you did not ask your question properly. That was a rather convoluted post. Ask again.
 
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I could see that coming, simply because it always does, yet, from nothing is basically all the arguments ever really offer here, but when someone actually says the words, it's always denied. It really is all you have without God in the picture. But there is the old classic that I can't explain where God came from, except to say he has always been, and only because he said so, so you can relax knowing you do have that.



So are you saying that's what Atheists do all the time, because they cannot personally understand how a God could have always existed, or how this one entity could create the entire universe? It sounds like that's exactly what you are saying.

Or, are you saying faith in God is that very argument? if so, might as well save it for at least somewhere other than a Christian website....seems like a pretty logical idea to me anyway.

And I really do wish some of you would get some new material. :)
It's not about the existence of God, Kenny. No atheist cares if you believe in God or will work very hard to talk you out of it.
It's about a shallow and inadequate interpretation of Scripture that creationists are trying to shove up our noses, atheists and other Christians alike.
 
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