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you realize God in the OT abandoned and exiled the Jews many times due to their sin and idolatry against Him..Wasn't Nineveh the only city that truly repented and thus God protected??

No, you should read your Bible a bit closer. God never abandoned Israel, only punished corporate Israel for transgressions. In fact, God always said that a remnant that were observant would survive, even when Elijah the prophet gave up on Israel because of Baal.

Nineveh was a gentile city that repented, showing that repentance is key to obtaining God's forgiveness. It is why when I repent, I know that God will forgive me because He showed us the way.
 
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Nineveh was a gentile city that repented, showing that repentance is key to obtaining God's forgiveness. It is why when I repent, I know that God will forgive me because He showed us the way.
Nineveh was the capitol of the Assyrian Empire. The Assyrians were notorious piratical imperialists, slaughtering everyone they didn't enslave.
In point of fact they went on doing this until they were utterly destroyed by an alliance of their surviving neighbors. They never did repent, unless extermination is repentance. The Book of Jonah is a fictional tale told to make a theological point.

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Nineveh was the capitol of the Assyrian Empire. The Assyrians were notorious piratical imperialists, slaughtering everyone they didn't enslave.
In point of fact they went on doing this until they were utterly destroyed by an alliance of their surviving neighbors. They never did repent, unless extermination is repentance. The Book of Jonah is a fictional tale told to make a theological point.

The theological point is the most important part of the story, true or false.
 
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No, you should read your Bible a bit closer. God never abandoned Israel, only punished corporate Israel for transgressions. In fact, God always said that a remnant that were observant would survive, even when Elijah the prophet gave up on Israel because of Baal.

Nineveh was a gentile city that repented, showing that repentance is key to obtaining God's forgiveness. It is why when I repent, I know that God will forgive me because He showed us the way.



most cities are unrepentant however, which is why God abandons them. Free will is an very important issue as God can only help people who draw towards him..As God said in Romans, that He gave them over to a depraved mind and received the due recompense of their reward of evil..This can be especially seen in the book of Jeremiah.

Murder of the innocent, abortion, adultery, slander, lust, gluttony, gossip, abandonment, hate, divorce, sterilization, envy, pride, etc. Society is reaping their rewards. We saw it with the Jews abandonment of God with pagan idols and greed, and thus God abandoned them. We see it again in the US and other areas obsessed with greed, envy, and Babylonian discord.


Through your own fault you will lose the inheritance I gave you. I will enslave you to your enemies in a land you do not know, for you have kindled my anger, and it will burn forever." - Jeremiah 17:4


Jeremiah 12:7 "I will forsake my house, abandon my inheritance; I will give the one I love into the hands of her enemies.

Jeremiah 15:14 I will enslave you to your enemies in a land you do not know, for my anger will kindle a fire that will burn against you."

 
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You are saying that my family was not saved because my mother did not have enough faith are you not?
No I am not. Many who are true Christians are destroyed by Satan.
That is a false accusation of my mother. She had plenty of faith. My family was not saved because my father was an abusive pedophile that did not want to be saved. He was controlled by Satan, as was every person that told my mother to stay as well as not divorce.
There lies the problem. MANY Christians do not know how to resist Satan.

James 4:7 (NKJV)
7 Resist the devil and he will flee from you.
The minister that counselled my family used the same scriptures you have and explained things in the exact same way.

You don't see how sick you are and you seem to be the only one. That is usually the case with the one's with distorted thinking.
You have obviously been hurt deeply, but blaming others is not a solution. God is faithful to ALL WHO BELIEVE His promises.
 
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What about Christians with mental illnesses? Do you really think that their mental illnesses are a sign that they don't have enough faith?
There can be MANY reasons for that.
Heck, do you even have any proof that God can "cure" mental illnesses?
I have seen God work MANY miracles. Many that many Christians wouldn't believe if I told them.
 
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No I am not. Many who are true Christians are destroyed by Satan.
There lies the problem. MANY Christians do not know how to resist Satan.

James 4:7 (NKJV)
7 Resist the devil and he will flee from you.
You have obviously been hurt deeply, but blaming others is not a solution. God is faithful to ALL WHO BELIEVE His promises.
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You really have no shame.
 
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okay, I have a serious question.

I'm currently (in the midst of) divorce without infidelity (for abuse, neglect, ect) but I now suspect that my spouse is/has been having relations with someone else. Does being unfaithful during a divorce *still* mean that I'm sinning for getting the divorce in the first place?
 
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We saw it with the Jews abandonment of God with pagan idols and greed, and thus God abandoned them.

Why don't you quote the passages in Jeremiah and Hosea and Isaiah where God says He will never abandon them completely?
 
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okay, I have a serious question.

I'm currently (in the midst of) divorce without infidelity (for abuse, neglect, ect) but I now suspect that my spouse is/has been having relations with someone else. Does being unfaithful during a divorce *still* mean that I'm sinning for getting the divorce in the first place?

I am starting to learn this open forum is the last place to obtain any advice regarding the word of god. I have started going to the pastors at my church and what they tell me makes sense, they show me scripturally and interpret those scriptures in a way that is logical.

There are also many here who are like that and I would PM them specifically for their ideas if you really want to get something out of this site.

Just an idea.
 
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I am starting to learn this open forum is the last place to obtain any advice regarding the word of god. I have started going to the pastors at my church and what they tell me makes sense, they show me scripturally and interpret those scriptures in a way that is logical.

There are also many here who are like that and I would PM them specifically for their ideas if you really want to get something out of this site.

Just an idea.

You realise that there is a Christian only ethics board? People with Christianity specific questions would probably get a better result there.
 
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okay, I have a serious question.

I'm currently (in the midst of) divorce without infidelity (for abuse, neglect, ect) but I now suspect that my spouse is/has been having relations with someone else. Does being unfaithful during a divorce *still* mean that I'm sinning for getting the divorce in the first place?

I really wish that someone would offer a serious response to my last question (#436). It's a major concern for me right now...

You are not sinning for getting the divorce. Your soon-to-ex obviously had no interest in saving the marriage either if he took the filings for divorce as a go-ahead to have sex with someone else.
 
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You realise that there is a Christian only ethics board? People with Christianity specific questions would probably get a better result there.

Actually the few people that are insistent on shoving their pathetic, judgmental, manipulative, narrow minded views on others claim they are Christians. The Christian only ethics board isn't safe either sadly enough or any Christian only area on this site.
 
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Actually the few people that are insistent on shoving their pathetic, judgmental, manipulative, narrow minded views on others claim they are Christians. The Christian only ethics board isn't safe either sadly enough or any Christian only area on this site.

You know, if everything is really bad, there's a "Log Out" button on the bar near the top and there's a vast world you can go explore.
 
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