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Divorce - Why? It's like El Nino

What should the church do about divorce?

  • Actively teach that it is a mistake

  • Equip young people with life skills that will promote healthier relationships

  • Be Silent or Take the populist - do what you want approach.

  • Deny Divorcees ability to Re-Marry at the Church


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dpartlow

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Why has Divorce
Become such a matter of course?
Currents of unyielding force
Deep is thy chaotic course…
Thy plutonian source.

Why would we willingly break
Our families and sacrament forsake?
In the waters lies a cavernous intake
Named Sin, which leads to Vulcan’s lake.
The waters of iniquity awake.

Desperate acts come bearing woe,
When the opening to Sin begins to grow.
The first sign doth this tempest show:
The generous trades fail to blow
Distraction of el Diablo.



Unrealistic entitlement and want combine.
In loss of true respect – now all things decline.
Under the surface, heat builds in thermocline.
And causes upwellings of hot unhealthy brine.
The failing catch is the next ensign.

When loving desire turns to unholy craving
Then communication turns to rant and raving
Typhoons and droughts: all climes are misbehaving.
El Nino entrenched: the atmospheres enslaving…
But rescuers are still out there saving.

A man sustains the family with arms and back and soul.
The wife sustains with many a beautiful and natural role.
But when cloud defrauds the field it is a dry and dusty bowl.
Like all the fragrant fruit blossoms the hoarfrost stole.
And lovely forests all reduced to coal.

For many of us, the selflessness of ‘We’
Has become the selfishness of ‘Me’
But though a boat untethered from the dock is ‘free’
When the waves and gales come, it is lost at sea.
Biffed and wrecked unmercifully.

Because: A broken cycle is Pride and hubris
Conceited Lucifer’s superbian fret.
Frigid storms of ice go to the Envious
Covetous Leviathan’s waters fete.
A raging fire, choking and sulpherous;
For perverted Asmodeus’s Lusty internet.
The boiling Greed of debt and avarice
Fraudulent Mammon’s casino bet.
A pit of snakes unto Sloth, apathetic and venomous
Deceptive Belphegor’s television set.
A meal of rats and toads for the Gluttonous,
Pushing Beelzebub’s addictive cravings whet.
Dismemberment of all blessed goodness
Hateful Satan’s Wrath doth get.

So take wisdom with thy spouse and mutual charity
And let thy matrimonial bond be a strong chord of three
Thou, thy spouse, and God, with vigilant constancy,
Compassion, duty, humility, love, and sobriety,
And enjoy thy blissful harmony



 

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I see how children of divorce are taught that it is the inevitable result of strife between parents. This may help the parents feel justified about thier decision, but it only poisons the child and creates a 'quitting' mentality toward divorce that will cause them to do the same in the future.
 
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Divorce is such a sad thing. My uncle is a pastor and he was at a resturaunt once. There were some men at a table next to him. One of them said he would just have water because he was fasting. My uncle asked him what he was fasting for. The man said I am a satinist and I am fasting asking for 3,000 marriages to fail this year. So remember that the enemy is out to get our marriages and we must do every thing that we can to protect them.
 
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Why has Divorce
Become such a matter of course?
Currents of unyielding force
Deep is thy chaotic course…
Thy plutonian source.

Why would we willingly break
Our families and sacrament forsake?
In the waters lies a cavernous intake
Named Sin, which leads to Vulcan’s lake.
The waters of iniquity awake.

Desperate acts come bearing woe,
When the opening to Sin begins to grow.
The first sign doth this tempest show:
The generous trades fail to blow
Distraction of el Diablo.



Unrealistic entitlement and want combine.
In loss of true respect – now all things decline.
Under the surface, heat builds in thermocline.
And causes upwellings of hot unhealthy brine.
The failing catch is the next ensign.

When loving desire turns to unholy craving
Then communication turns to rant and raving
Typhoons and droughts: all climes are misbehaving.
El Nino entrenched: the atmospheres enslaving…
But rescuers are still out there saving.

A man sustains the family with arms and back and soul.
The wife sustains with many a beautiful and natural role.
But when cloud defrauds the field it is a dry and dusty bowl.
Like all the fragrant fruit blossoms the hoarfrost stole.
And lovely forests all reduced to coal.

For many of us, the selflessness of ‘We’
Has become the selfishness of ‘Me’
But though a boat untethered from the dock is ‘free’
When the waves and gales come, it is lost at sea.
Biffed and wrecked unmercifully.

Because: A broken cycle is Pride and hubris
Conceited Lucifer’s superbian fret.
Frigid storms of ice go to the Envious
Covetous Leviathan’s waters fete.
A raging fire, choking and sulpherous;
For perverted Asmodeus’s Lusty internet.
The boiling Greed of debt and avarice
Fraudulent Mammon’s casino bet.
A pit of snakes unto Sloth, apathetic and venomous
Deceptive Belphegor’s television set.
A meal of rats and toads for the Gluttonous,
Pushing Beelzebub’s addictive cravings whet.
Dismemberment of all blessed goodness
Hateful Satan’s Wrath doth get.

So take wisdom with thy spouse and mutual charity
And let thy matrimonial bond be a strong chord of three
Thou, thy spouse, and God, with vigilant constancy,
Compassion, duty, humility, love, and sobriety,
And enjoy thy blissful harmony



You know, divorce used to be a fairly rare thing - and certainly discouraged by society.

I believe the prevalence reflects less of a willingness to work out our problems with each other, and generally less faithful hearts.

This is why I believe divorce, and that which leads up to it is a sin against God - not just against each other. Pride, selfishness, and lust are just not consistent with the teachings of Christ. So many of today's churches are soft on these things (we are forgiven so what's the diff... they seem to say). But such attitudes do a real disservice to society and to our children.
 
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This is a hard one. Divorce happens and it is hard to tell someone that they simply can not get divorced in the eyes of God. Here is the problem in a nut shell people are free to act as they want and we enpower our governments to back those wishes we want for ourselves. But God does not answer to our wishes and will not change because we want a do over, since we messed up so bad on the first marriage.

God says once married you remain married and can not get divorced, thusly to get remarried is adultry. Now we generally do not like that answer and even more should you be one of the many whom have been divorced and remarried.

I look at it from this perspective. There is nothing that can be done for those whom have already divorced and remarried. What we can do is discourage this behavior in the future and encourage looking at marriage in the light it was intended. I am willing to allow those that have been divorced and remarried to discuss the matter with their creator, with out my direct input.

But I do have some problems with the Church providing a wedding service to those whom have been divorced before as it does go against elements in the Bible. Granted for some Churches this will not be enforced or recognized.
 
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