Hi G4G!
Gideon4God wrote on Today 04:48 PM:
Do you believe in the dispensationalism of Scofield and Larkin? I agree it is fun to study...
I have been pouring over the charts on the site you posted. Very interesting. Is Larkins dispensationalism wide spread? Do many believe in it? Do you believe in it? What are some of the holes in dispensationalism? I agree with parts of it. Some people hold that God has always dealt with man exactly the same at all times in history, and so naturally they would not like this teaching. But I really find it interesting. If you are a young Christian and want to study the Bible as a whole, I reccomend getting Some of this material and becomming familiar with it. You come out of it with a very wide angle view of the relaitionship between man and God. I am a visual type person so the charts really appeal to me.
In my early Christian life I dedicated many hours and late nights to the study of this and like material.
I would say do it!
your brother in Jesus
27th March 2003 at 11:22 PM hobart schmedly said this in Post #4
Hi G4G!
Tried tp PM this... did not seem to work.
You wrote:
I find it is fasinating and a lot of fun to study. I think it helps you in that it frames all the main parts of the Bible into components that can be studied and remembered. Dake of Dakes Annotated Reference Bible also bases his entire Bible on this concept. I recommend it to you if you really want to study it. Dakes also wrote a book entitled "God's Plan for Man" which draws it out quite well.
http://www.ministryhelps.com/Catalog/Dake/DakeProducts.htm
I have been pouring over the charts on the site you posted. Very interesting. Is Larkins dispensationalism wide spread? Do many believe in it? Do you believe in it? What are some of the holes in dispensationalism? I agree with parts of it. Some people hold that God has always dealt with man exactly the same at all times in history, and so naturally they would not like this teaching. But I really find it interesting. If you are a young Christian and want to study the Bible as a whole, I reccomend getting Some of this material and becomming familiar with it. You come out of it with a very wide angle view of the relaitionship between man and God. I am a visual type person so the charts really appeal to me.
In my early Christian life I dedicated many hours and late nights to the study of this and like material.
I would say do it!
your brother in Jesus
Also keep in mind that there are different types of Dispensationalism as it has evolved. The originator was John N Darby who was with the Plymouth Brethren, next in line was CI Scofield who popularized the system with his reference Bible, Lewis Sperry Chafer studied under him and he started what is today Dallas Theological Seminary, then came HA Ironside. Larkin was around in this period as well. The system went through a lot of changes in the 50's and 60's and is reffered to as Revised Dispensationalism. In the last 15-20 years a new form has come up that is reffered to as Progressive Dispensationalism which seems to becoming the predominant view.
So you have Classic, Revised (or Normative) and Progressive (which is where I lean toward these days)
Most people while not aware of the system are very familiar with the eschalogical part of it as has been popularized with the 'Left Behind' series and the pre tribulation rapture. Progressive Dispensationalism usually leans Post Trib.
Revised or Normative Dispensationalism is distinguished by three principles:
1 - A clear distinction between God's program for Israel and God's program for the Church.
2 - A consistent and regular use of a literal principle of interpretation
3 - The understanding of the purpose of God as His own glory rather than the salvation of mankind.
Progressive Dispensationalism sees the various dispensations as 'progressing' the overall unfolding plan of salvation in history. Christ made the New Covenant with a believing remnant (as it had been throughout Israels history). The New Covenant has allowed the Gentiles to be grafted in in place of unbelieving Israel so that we can partake of the spiritual blessings as well and believing Israel will still get what they were promised in the Millennieum. The Church is made up of the believing remnant of Jews and Gentiles, so your left with unbelieving Jews, unbelieving Gentiles and the Church of God.
Here's a good site: www.lasttrumpet.com
31st March 2003 at 01:38 PM TWells said this in Post #5
Most people while not aware of the system are very familiar with the eschalogical part of it as has been popularized with the 'Left Behind' series and the pre tribulation rapture. Progressive Dispensationalism usually leans Post Trib.
2nd April 2003 at 09:51 PM TWells said this in Post #8 Looking at the Olivet Discourse in Matt Ch. 24 where do you think it indicates the Rapture should take place??
Agreed.4th April 2003 at 05:54 AM Ezra said this in Post #11 <http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=761825>
Don't take Matthew 24 in isolation, but line up Mark 13 and Luke 21 beside it.
4th April 2003 at 05:54 AM Ezra said this in Post #11 <http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=761825>
The Rapture takes place between verse 14 and 15 of Matt. 24. The *end* can't come until the saints are *snatched up* and the abomination of desolation* can't be set up until the Divine Restrainer is moved out of the way.
4th April 2003 at 05:54 AM Ezra said this in Post #11 <http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=761825>
*There shall not an hair of your head perish* (Lk. 21:18) tells us that the saints are not subjected wrath but to obtain salvation. Some believe this means a pre-wrath rapture, but that does not fit with 2 Thess 2. The world will be subjected to *strong delusion* in the first half of the tribultion, and this too is a judgement (wrath) of God on unbelievers.