Dispensationalism in Church History

[MariaRegina]

Thanks nyj

 

[MariaRegina]

Dear njy:

Is Darby an ex-Jesuit? In another forum, they said the whole rapture idea was dreamed up by an ex-Jesuit.

 

[Reader Nilus]

John Nelson Darby was an Anglican priest. He heard the theory of dispensationalism from a tongue speaker in Scotland in 1830. Darbyites like to point to a a Jesuit and his theorys to justify that it was not a tongue speaker in Scotland that dreamed up the whole fantasy of the rapture.
Jeff the Finn

 

[Reader Nilus]

The Calamity of Chiliasm by Dennis Eugene Engleman
Jeff the Finn

 

[Oblio]

Great link Jeff !

Thank you so much for posting that.

 

[Reformed Baptist]

The Calamity of Chiliasm by Dennis Eugene Engleman
Jeff the Finn

Didn't Engleman also write 'Ultimate Things?'

 

[Reformed Baptist]

bump

 

[MariaRegina]

Yes, Engleman also wrote Ultimate Things and A Rumor of War.

 

[Oblio]

I've been eying Ultimate Things for awhile, I'll have to pick it up.

 

[Maximus]

I've read Engleman's Ultimate Things. It's okay, but Engleman advances the idea that the "He [or he] who restrains" of 2 Thess. 2:7 was the Russian Czar. I don't buy it, and I don't think many others will either. It hurts Engleman's credibility.

T.L. Frazier's A Second Look at the Second Coming is far and away the better of the two books. In fact, it is the best thing I have read on eschatology.

Another good one is Will Catholics Be Left Behind?, by Carl E. Olson.

If Reformed Baptist knows his Reformed theology at all, he will realize that it is most definitely NOT Dispensationalist or even Premillenialist.

If he is interested in some good books on eschatology from the Reformed perspective, he should check out this site and look for books on eschatology. There are some there that will slice and dice Dispensationalism for him.

 

[Reformed Baptist]

If Reformed Baptist knows his Reformed theology at all, he will realize that it is most definitely NOT Dispensationalist or even Premillenialist.

If he is interested in some good books on eschatology from the Reformed perspective, he should check out this site and look for books on eschatology. There are some there that will slice and dice Dispensationalism for him.

Thanks for the comment Maximus, but I do know what I believe and I do know what Reformed Baptists believe.

 

[Maximus]

Thanks for the comment Maximus, but I do know what I believe and I do know what Reformed Baptists believe.

Okay, if you say so. But I used to be a pretty heavy-duty Calvinist/Reformed guy myself, and Reformed eschatology has always been pretty uniformly amillenial, with a smattering here and there of postmillenialism (e.g., Lorraine Boettner).

 

[nyj]

But I used to be a pretty heavy-duty Calvinist/Reformed guy myself, and Reformed eschatology has always been pretty uniformly amillenial, with a smattering here and there of postmillenialism (e.g., Lorraine Boettner).

Every Calvinist/Reformed person I've ever talked to has been at the very least, a partial preterist.

 

[Maximus]

Every Calvinist/Reformed person I've ever talked to has been at the very least, a partial preterist.

I agree.

But partial preterism (not whacky full preterism) is the historical, patristic position and goes hand-in-glove with amillenialism.

Eschatology is one of the very few things that the Reformed get somewhat right.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.