Disgusting thoughts

[DeerGlow]

I can't stop these thoughts. I feel like God hates me and doesn't want to save me. I've had disgusting thoughts against the trinity. I have blasphemed against the HS. I had thoughts of cursing Him and telling Him to go away or go to hell. I DO NOT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN. But I can't control it. I am so scared.

Edit: Also the word(s) G-D in my head. I don't use that language anymore. I don't know why it's come back.

 

[DeerGlow]

Please pray to God for me for mercy.

 

[Kenny'sID]

And how would we know?

And assuming it's not, what would the OP need to do to stop the problem? Any ideas?

Also, what do you mean by religion...you really didn't give us a lot to go on there. What if the OP just has belief in the biblical God? Is that what you mean by religion?


I think the OP is looking for answers here is why I'm so persistent.

 

[ImAllLikeOkWaitWat]

And how would we know?

And assuming it's not, what would the OP need to do to stop the problem? Any ideas?

Also, what do you mean by religion...you really didn't give us a lot to go on there. What if the OP just has belief in the biblical God? Is that what you mean by religion?


I think the OP is looking for answers here is why I'm so persistent.

As someone who dealt with thoughts similiar to the person and fully recovered, I would suggest a better understanding of what is possible and what is not possible. The fear stems from your mind being introduced to these abstract practically infinite thought loops that torture you over and over. The solution is not to say Jesus Christ over and over or try to cast something out that isn't even there. The solution is to reality check, to have someone you can trust to talk these things over with. It also does take some effort as far as pushing through the resistance that is ocd and the tendency to over analyze scriptures that terrify you. But the mind has amazing ability to learn, and you can learn when you get an intrusive thought like i have to take it in stride. Look you won't be like this 5 years from now. I guarantee it. But you have to put in the work and do the research. You can overcome this but the solution lies in taking these thoughts in stride and not as actual threats. These thoughts although they may seem terrible are in fact merely just thoughts and can do you no harm. Realize that.

I dealt with terrible intrusive thoughts for many years starting around 16 years and it did take about 10-11 years for it to end but i no longer have the issue. I think you can recover faster than me though because I think hearing from someone who has dealt with these same issues and the secret to overcoming it is something I didn't have. I had to suffer for years trying everything till one day I said you know what, so what if I sold my soul, so what if i'm going to hell, so what if i cursed god, so what if i blasphemed the holy spirit. The fact remains I am still here, I am not perfect, my mind is not perfect, and thats the way things are and I can accept and deal with the reality as it is. Whether I did something wrong or not so what. I know what the bible says is the truth. I know Jesus Christ died for my sins and not only are my past sins paid for in full but my current and future sins are paid for as well. A thought only has the power you give it. If you give these thoughts that you call disgusting or blasphemous any kind of attention or power they will consume your every waking moment like they did me. But you have to get to that point of understanding of what exactly is going on and the actual reality of the threat you perceive that is no threat at all. If you have any questions feel free to ask. This will go away eventually this is not a death sentence. And you can be free from this mental prison of ocd. Don't be afraid to seek professional help as well if you feel you need it but you need to do something, you can't just let your mind torture you as it currently is doing.

 

[Galatea]

I will tell you that God loves you, no matter what thoughts you may or may not have. Blaspheming the Holy Spirit is refusing to accept Christ as Saviour, nothing more and nothing less. God is good and His mercies endure forever. If you believe you might have a mental illness, you need to see a doctor.

You are right, counseling and medicine can help you.

Most of all, when you have these thoughts, say this to yourself "Even though I had these thoughts, I know you still love me, Dear Father."

Have you ever had hateful thoughts toward your father? Or hateful words said to him? He forgives and loves you. Just think, God is the best Father. He loves you exponentially more than your earthly father. He will love you no matter what and forgive.

 

[ImAllLikeOkWaitWat]

I saw a picture of Jesus with the thorn crown and whip lashes

I've seen images of jesus in my head in worse situations than that is all I'm going to say about that one and all I can tell you is they mean absolutely nothing. Meaningless completely meaningless. It does not matter at all.

 

[DeerGlow]

I have blasphemed, and strayed from the faith. I just today found the shirt I wore when I decided to call myself Taoist. I put it in the trash and it's going on the curb tomorrow but I still feel cursed by that. Thebblapshemous thoughts are so bad. I don't want them but I can't stop them.

 

[DeerGlow]

I've seen images of jesus in my head in worse situations than that is all I'm going to say about that one and all I can tell you is they mean absolutely nothing. Meaningless completely meaningless. It does not matter at all.

? I meant it was like one of the Jesus on the cross pictures, not the sick thoughts I've had.

 

[ImAllLikeOkWaitWat]

? I meant it was like one of the Jesus on the cross pictures, not the sick thoughts I've had.

It means absolutely nothing. Trust me on this one.

 

[ImAllLikeOkWaitWat]

What your experiencing is nothing new. Martin Luther experienced the same thing along with many christians on this forum especially while reading the bible. I just want to reassure you, your situation is nothing special, its nothing new, these things have gone on since the fall of man. They mean absolutely nothing. It does get better this I promise you. I never thought I would be free from the mental prison of ocd. But such thoughts like you currently have that I experienced just don't bother me anymore. Maybe its maturity maybe its just experience either way you grow out of this. You have to let this go and the only way to let it go is by accepting it as it is. It is the fear that is binding you up and preventing you from moving on from these thoughts. But let it go, breathe and let it go. It can't do anything to you. It is absolutely powerless and nothing.

 

[friend of]

You do have a repentant heart though, right? So you can't be that hard-hearted. If you were truly a reprobate you wouldn't even be concerned with what God thinks about you.

John 6:37

 

[Galatea]

I don't know how people can say that after all of the wrath against idolatersand blasphemers in the bible personally. And how could God possibly love me? I saw a picture of Jesus with the thorn crown and whip lashes spelling

I LOVE
YOU

But how?! I feel like a reprobate, hard-hearted, selfish, prideful, uncontrolled animal. A vessel of wrath hated by God.

Because, He does love you. He loves those idolaters and blasphemers, too. Guess what? That image of the scourged Saviour DOES say "I love you" written in blood. I don't know who told you that God does not love all people, but my Bible says that He loves all. He loved the world and died for every single person that ever lived and ever will live.

Please see about going to a doctor and please talk to your pastor.

 

[ImAllLikeOkWaitWat]

I'm talking about this

I don't know why you are saying that.

What about that image bothers you so much? is it pleasant? no Was it pleasant for Jesus to experience that? Absolutely not. But does it matter that the image came into your mind? absolutely not. Images are just thoughts. Thoughts are nothing more than what you make of them. If you want to think that seeing that in your mind has any meaning beyond what it is which is just torn skin from lashes, then accept it. Fighting your mind is a battle you will never win. But using your power of accepting your thoughts and focusing on what really matters what you really care about and what is significant will eventually render such images and thoughts powerless. Just think for a fraction of a second of what a life is like where you can have an image like that of christ and not even flinch. Imagine the power that you would feel for overcoming your mind. Because that is what I feel every day. I overcame this and you will too.

 

[Galatea]

I have blasphemed, and strayed from the faith. I just today found the shirt I wore when I decided to call myself Taoist. I put it in the trash and it's going on the curb tomorrow but I still feel cursed by that. Thebblapshemous thoughts are so bad. I don't want them but I can't stop them.

God is not cursing you, He is good. He doesn't want you to torture yourself. Whatever your sins are are in His sea of forgetfulness. If you can't stop them, tell Him right now, that you can't stop them. He knows already, but it might make you feel better to tell Him. He knows your heart, your motives, intentions, as well as your thoughts.

 

[Winken]

Define religion, please. Be specific.

 

[CrystalDragon]

Define religion, please. Be specific.

By "religion" I mean the belief that God/a group of gods/some super-powerful entity has complete control over your lives, and some fearful aspects of religion can be incredibly damaging, causing people to think that they are wicked, hated, and unworthy. I've seen it time and time again even in this forum.

 

[Winken]

I can't stop these thoughts. I feel like God hates me and doesn't want to save me. I've had disgusting thoughts against the trinity. I have blasphemed against the HS. I had thoughts of cursing Him and telling Him to go away or go to hell. I DO NOT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN. But I can't control it. I am so scared.

Edit: Also the word(s) G-D in my head. I don't use that language anymore. I don't know why it's come back.

Blasphemy is to fail to confess Jesus as Savior. You indicate that you are a Christian. A Spiritually birthed Christian cannot blaspheme. God hates no one; not one Spiritually birthed Christian is hated by God. The Trinity is attested to in the Bible. It sounds like your intruding thoughts, in addition to being alien to your Faith, reflect a mental condition. I suggest a local MD/Psychiatrist. Facilitate it through your Christian assembly.

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[CrystalDragon]

Proverbs 30:32

“If thou hast done foolishly in lifting up thyself, or if thou hast thought evil, lay thine hand upon thy mouth.”

It might help to do this.

Proverbs are sayings like "time is money", it's not like putting your hand on your mouth literally is going to make the problem go away.

 

[Winken]

Proverbs are sayings like "time is money", it's not like putting your hand on your mouth literally is going to make the problem go away.

Proverbs is found in the OT, the Hebrew Bible, Judaism. It cannot be quoted as a realistic imperative or demand or consequence for Christians today.