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We are One in The Spirit,
We are One in The Lord.
We are One in The Spirit,
We are One in The Lord.
And we pray that all unity may one day be restored.


And they'll know we are Christians by our love,
By our Love,
Yes they'll know we are Christians by our love.


We will work with each other,
We will work side by side.
We will work with each other,
We will work side by side.
And we'll guard each man's dignity
And save each man's pride.


And they'll know we are Christians by our love,
By our Love,
Yes they'll know we are Christians by our love.
 
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You mean a place where we can tell people we disagree with them without them wailing cries of persecution, hatred, bigotry and being "mean?" Now that's a concept. :clap:

Grace is about loving other people that we have the freedom to do so but at the same time, don't flaunt our freedom or mock those who disagree. We are in the building up relationship, not destroying. Grace is we live in the Spirit AND also walk in the Spirit.
 
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Isn't that what the Spirit-Filled Forum is for?

The problem with that Spirit-Filled Forum, they are combining Pentecostal and Word of Faith in that forum. I truly believe Spirit-Filled should have a forum alone without them. There are so many debates of doctrinal differences in that forum.
 
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Through the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of life and light and love. Love should be in priority. Without Christ, we are nothing. Along with love and under the control of the Holy Spirit, the power of love and Holy Spirit flows through us. The only way the spiritual gifts are going to operate is love. Love is the key. God is love. He gave us two commandments. We are to love God and others.

When doctrines takes over "Love" then we are disobeying God. 1 Corinthians 13:13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love. With love, the Holy Spirit will work with each person without our help. All God wants from us is "love".

Romans 12:9 Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.

Galatians 5:13............Love one another
Ephesians 4:12...........Love one another
1 Peter 1:22..............Love one another

Jesus also didn't say: "Love your doctrines with all your heart, with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor who believes the same doctrines as you you.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

What did Jesus REALLY say? " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."
 
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Jim, Chris's idea here is not new. Rather than wait at Jerusalem (home) for the enduement of power, most denominations confront the new convert with "you're commissioned to preach the gospel in Matthew, now go do it!"

I'm sure you are quite aware of this, I just wanted to bring it to light and rememberance. Breaking that in a person is not always easy, and usually not broken because the person has trusted that teaching they received from start, and desires to continue trusting it.

I am very aware. I was in his position when I was his age. I guess we will let him learn through experiences that the Holy Spirit will lead him to.
 
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Friends, this thread has been cleaned up and posts were deleted.

I started this thread out of concern over the actions and attitude as of late in the Baptist area. Please do not make me close it permenantly.

Let "charity" rule.

God Bless

Till all are one.
 
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See friends, that is what I was talking about. Because there is little love in this room, a large number of posts had to be deleted.

When the Sadduces had the wrong idea on scriptures, did Jesus argue with them? No He did not, He merely pointed out to them:

"Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures," -Mt. 22:29

If we continue to bash others, and even ourselves, then we make the Bible a liar:

"Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;" -Phil. 1:27

That is our mission, not to "bite and devour one another" -Gal. 5:15

We will never win one soul for Christ or convert one soul as long as we beat others with a club or beat them over the head telling them how wrong their beliefs are. That is why we are commended to:

"And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;" -1 Thes. 4:11

And to:

"Study to shew thyself approved unto God," -2 Tim. 3:15

Yes we are to go out witnessing, spreading the Gospel, but never with a club. What was Jesus' instruction to the seventy?

"And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give. Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses, Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat. And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, enquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence. And when ye come into an house, salute it. And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you. And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves." -Mt.10:7-16

Grace people, God gave us grace, why not pass it on?

And on a smaller note, it seems that since I've been added to the staff, some people want to ignore me. Please do not get that impression. I'm still who I was, a humble servant of Jesus Christ. If you would like to talk, pass the time, chit-chat, vent a little fustration rather than get reported or just to get it out of your system, I'm here for ya. My PM box is always open.

God Bless

Till all are one.
 
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It is disturbing to see so much strife here. While outside the world continues to spin into eternity here theological jousting is a sport-a mental challenge of "spirituality" engaging under the pretense of "I'm right and you are not". The liberals get along better than Baptists.

Lots of wise and knowledgable folks around here, and this is the best that can be done? Satan laughs and God cries over this kind of fighting in the church. Oh, and the unbelievers think it's a hoot.

Disagreements can be handled better than moderators having to come in to referee. But maybe the time will come when mods have to flex and ban to maintain order-that's probably been done here before.

Hoping things can be better...or at least civil. Deacondean you have your hands full...
 
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Hey you didn't offend me at all
As we can only learn from one another
No harm nor fould taken.
Sorry about the disappointment!
We just need to learn from each other
Putting aside our differences and working things out!
 
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