Direct triangulation shows the universe just older than 6000 years

[dad]

The light comes from the past, and new light will reach us in the future.

Not the past you think it comes from! It comes from a past only thousands of years old. This is why you can't tell the future or far past! You are right about one thing, new light will reach us in the future.

Therefore, I am able to predict the past, present, and future all with one prediction. I can predict these values using validated, verified, and tested scientific theories. These predictions continue to be fulfillfed

Not in the least. Only in your dreams. You can only operate within a fixed time frame no further.

. What are you able to predict using your merged universes? Nothing.

You joking? WE are well aware of many of the properties of the coming new heavens. Here's one for you. Animals will hyper evolve back into being plant eaters.Or how about this one. It is forever, and no death or decay as we know it now. Man, I could predict here till the cows come home.

And into the past, as evidenced by the Oklo reactors which are naturally occuring nuclear reactors that were present on the earth 2 billion years ago due to the higher concentration of heavier hydrogen isotopes. These reactors show that nuclear forces have remained the same over 2 billion years.

Here are a few of the assumptions involved.
"What made such a thing possible was that in the distant past uranium was naturally enriched in U-235, that is, less of it had decayed away by nuclear fission. "


"But water acts as a moderator, too. At Oklo there was a lot of water, probably a river flowing above the buried orebody. The water allowed the nuclear interactions to reach the critical point, and the reactor began to work. But as it heated up, the water turned to steam and flowed away. With the moderator gone, the chain reaction stopped and did not start again until the orebody cooled and the water returned. This simple feedback cycle kept the Oklo reactors (there were at least a dozen of them) active until the U-235 was depleted. That took about a million years. When the Oklo mine was producing ore in the 1970s it was that telltale depletion of U-235, unheard-of in nature, that tipped scientists off."

"Why was uranium so much more radioactive then? That is a deep question that points to the very origin of the solar system. The formation of the planets (and the Sun) from an original cloud of dust and gas apparently was triggered by the explosion of a nearby supernova. Only a supernova can manufacture elements heavier than iron, including uranium"http://geology.about.com/od/geophysics/a/aaoklo.htm
The closer you look at this the more it is evident that it is present based assumptions and belief that fires the phoney furnace here!

The past, present, and future are all accessible to science, as I have shown.

They certainly are not, as exposed.

 

[Natro]

Dad if there was a change between old light and present light then when that change took place there would be a period when we couldn't see any light because the old light would have passed us while new light will still be traveling to us at a slower speed and being that the universe is 6000 years old as you claim it to be there would still be at least 1000 years of darkness.

 

[dad]

Dad if there was a change between old light and present light then when that change took place there would be a period when we couldn't see any light because the old light would have passed us while new light will still be traveling to us at a slower speed and being that the universe is 6000 years old as you claim it to be there would still be at least 1000 years of darkness.

No! The light we have was left in place of the old. It kept coming. The whole unniverse was split, and we are the PO part. With the spiritual seperated, all that was left still coming in was what we got. Get it?

 

[HairlessSimian]

Ok give me these claculations and I am sure you have submited them for peer reviews that you can also show me. If not then your just a man shouting the internet saying things he can't prove are true like they are true.

Would it surprise you to learn that he's been doing this thread after thread (since the universe split, it seems) here and on other internet forums, without ever presenting any evidence (except the one verse in his signature) and he always a fantastical explanation for everything?

 

[HairlessSimian]

About that verse, dad, it sounds fake.

Gen 10:23 And the children of Aram; Uz, and Hul, and Gether, and Mash.
Gen 10:24 And Arphaxad begat Salah; and Salah begat Eber.
Gen 10:25 And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.
Gen 10:26 And Joktan begat Almodad, and Sheleph, and Hazarmaveth, and Jerah,
Gen 10:27 And Hadoram, and Uzal, and Diklah,
and so on.

This favorite phrase of yours ("for in his days was the earth divided;") has been interpreted in three ways (besides your way): geographical, demographical or linguistic. The first, by YECs, seemingly refers to continental drift. The second, to brother Joktan's descendants migrating to southern Arabia. The third refers to the Tower of Babel. No one seems to agree. Does any serious scholar agree with you, dad?

(Sorry, folks, for this seeming hijack. I am questioning dad's opposition to the triangulation conclusion by questioning his claim of support in scripture.)

 

[cobaltburrito]

I smell something...smells like BS.

 

[anunbeliever]

Enjoy this you YECs.

Was that really you posting? It seems less polished than your usual writings.
If there's only 2% error out to 6000 light years, Astronomers should use the technique on something futher away. Even 10% would be fine if the star being checked is 10000 light years away.

 

[dad]

About that verse, dad, it sounds fake.

Gen 10:23 And the children of Aram; Uz, and Hul, and Gether, and Mash.
Gen 10:24 And Arphaxad begat Salah; and Salah begat Eber.
Gen 10:25 And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.
Gen 10:26 And Joktan begat Almodad, and Sheleph, and Hazarmaveth, and Jerah,
Gen 10:27 And Hadoram, and Uzal, and Diklah,
and so on.

This favorite phrase of yours ("for in his days was the earth divided;") has been interpreted in three ways (besides your way): geographical, demographical or linguistic. The first, by YECs, seemingly refers to continental drift. The second, to brother Joktan's descendants migrating to southern Arabia. The third refers to the Tower of Babel. No one seems to agree. Does any serious scholar agree with you, dad?

I agree with all of them. The split caused languages to be confused, men to scatter and migrate somewhat, and the continents likely, to seperate as well! AS for scholars agreeing with the split merge theory, I think it's too early for that sort of thing. But I haven't had anyone mount much of a case against it!

(Sorry, folks, for this seeming hijack. I am questioning dad's opposition to the triangulation conclusion by questioning his claim of support in scripture.)

I don't question geometry or distances of stars, so relax. I don't see any need to bother with that. The fabric of the universe being different does the trick quite nicely.


Hey, Glen, about the future that contains heaven, and how I pointed out it could not be PO, what say you to this?