DINOSAURS! Noah's Flood & other awesome questions.

[Commander]

First Commander, I would like to know "Your" definition of a secular scientist. Second, why is it that you think because there are folded mountains that it is a problem for "secular scientists"?

Below is a picture of the north face of Mount Everest showing folded strata. Folded strata is a result of continental collisions which occur at a very slow rate. In this case, the collision of the Indian sub-continent with the Asian Continent. This is not assumed, it is actually measured by GPS satellites. Mount Everest is still rising and deforming at the rate of 5 mm/yr (2 in).

Yeah, folded mountains all over the world. Best describes the world wide Biblical flood of Noah.

 

[RickG]

Yeah, folded mountains all over the world. Best describes the world wide Biblical flood of Noah.

How so? How do you get folded mountains from a flood?

 

[Commander]

You really have a habit of responding to my posts without addressing what you quoted from me. You asked no question of me. If you have a question, do so directly.

Post #408-So, if it can be demonstrated in the laboratory, then it does not take millions/billions of years for it to form?

 

[Commander]

How so? How do you get folded mountains from a flood?

Read some of the Christian scientist literature, or watch a Christian video. Notice that the major mountain ranges are in parallel with tectonic faults.

 

[RickG]

Post #408-So, if it can be demonstrated in the laboratory, then it does not take millions/billions of years for it to form?

A folded mountain in a laboratory, you have a video or something? I didn't see it. Are you saying some creation scientists folded layers of rock in a laboratory?

 

[RickG]

Read some of the Christian scientist literature, or watch a Christian video. Notice that the major mountain ranges are in parallel with tectonic faults.

Commander, I've read a lot of the Creation Science literature and looked at their videos for year. What is demonstrated is not science, rather a misrepresentation of science.

 

[Commander]

A folded mountain in a laboratory, you have a video or something? I didn't see it. Are you saying some creation scientists folded layers of rock in a laboratory?

I miss quoted Speedwell in his post #407-Right. And it is well understood by geologists that under the right conditions lithified strata can fold without fracturing. The phenomenon can even be demonstrated in a laboratory. My bad.

 

[Commander]

Commander, I've read a lot of the Creation Science literature and looked at their videos for year. What is demonstrated is not science, rather a misrepresentation of science.

It does not take much data to figure that this petrified leg, known as the "Limestone Cowboy" is not millions/billions of years old. The boot was made in the 1950's. Petrification, things turning to stone is in the geology field.

Notice the hole toward the middle, it underwent a CT scan, and the persons foot extended as it should in the boot.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Apparently you should learn where the theory of evolution stems from. "Babylon is fallen, is fallen...THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."

The origin of evolution science is well documented. Scientists were realizing evolution was real before Darwin published. Your connecting it with that biblical phrase is without any foundation.

 

[Colter]

 

[Commander]

The origin of evolution science is well documented. Scientists were realizing evolution was real before Darwin published. Your connecting it with that biblical phrase is without any foundation.

Yes, it is well documented, that some scientist in their minds were. Are you absolutely sure that I am connecting it without any foundation? Jesus Christ is my foundation!

 

[Commander]

Do you have a real depiction of the drawing, showing the progression of India?

 

[Commander]

Colter- you do realize that the drawing is showing that India moved but the continent of Asia does not, right?

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Yes, it is well documented, that some scientist in their minds were. Are you absolutely sure that I am connecting it without any foundation? Jesus Christ is my foundation!

Well, Jesus Christ is the foundation for us all, He is Creator. However, based on the evidence He left in the stars, the rocks, and the genomes, He used evolution to do the creating. I heed His command to listen to EVERY word of God, which includes the stars, the rocks, and the genomes, which came about because God spoke them into being.

 

[Commander]

Well, Jesus Christ is the foundation for us all, He is Creator. However, based on the evidence He left in the stars, the rocks, and the genomes, He used evolution to do the creating. I heed His command to listen to EVERY word of God, which includes the stars, the rocks, and the genomes, which came about because God spoke them into being.

Then it comes down to when God spoke them into being. 8,000 years ago as His word tells us, or millions/billions as some scientist say?

 

[RickG]

It does not take much data to figure that this petrified leg, known as the "Limestone Cowboy" is not millions/billions of years old. The boot was made in the 1950's. Petrification, things turning to stone is in the geology field.

Notice the hole toward the middle, it underwent a CT scan, and the persons foot extended as it should in the boot.

Its a fraud dude. There has never been a CT scan of it. The owners (Carl Baugh & Don Patton) won't let anyone examine it. And how do you explain flesh and bone fossilizing and leather not? Please tell me you aren't that gullible? At the best it would be a calcification, not a fossil. Good Grief!

 

[Commander]

Its a fraud dude. There has never been a CT scan of it. The owners (Carl Baugh & Don Patton) won't let anyone examine it. And how do you explain flesh and bone fossilizing and leather not? Please tell me you aren't that gullible? At the best it would be a calcification, not a fossil. Good Grief!

Okay, I will give some on that one for the time being. How about the Taylor Trail that I posted to you in post #383?

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Then it comes down to when God spoke them into being. 8,000 years ago as His word tells us, or millions/billions as some scientist say?

And why do scientists say that? They have scientific reasons for saying that. Do you have a clue what they are? How does it compare with your scientific reasons for taking your particular interpretation of Genesis 1 as literal truth?

 

[pat34lee]

Where do you get this garbage.
Mark, around 70 AD
Matthew, between 70 & 100 AD
Luke, between 60 & 90 AD
John, between 80 & 95 AD

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_reliability_of_the_Gospels#Authorship_and_date

In Luke 13:4, it mentions a current or recent event, a tower falling, killing
eighteen people. Don't you think one would mention if Jerusalem were
sacked and the temple destroyed? (70 AD) Especially when it was part of
Jesus' prophecies?

Luke 21:6
As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which
there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

 

[pat34lee]

And ocean salinity would have changed considerably killing all marine and fresh water life.

Not when there were no major oceans before the flood and
no thousands of years of water washing off the land, carrying
salt into the oceans. Even the dead sea wasn't salty at one
point.