Difference between liberal & conservative

[Zoii]

Your final comment suggests compromise; entering the gray area i.e., treading water (doing nothing that will offend the other party). Directed action is required to solve problems. In my analogy conservative take direct action to save themselves by going directly at the solution. Liberals, if they started swimming at all, would take off in all directions, or the direction that the most emotional one in the group chooses.

On the contrary I am suggesting the opposite. I'm suggesting you move forward with integrity.

Treading water is whats frequently happening in your politics (and here too in Australia) Treading water occurs when both sides of the political divide take a totally opposite view to the point of being combative, refusing to acknowledge the values in each others arguments. It results in an incapacity to move forward with any significant change. Every step forward is fought out - and that fight spills into the population with each side of the political divide verging on hate towards one another

I see it expressed here even on CF. The level of vitriol thrown around from one fellow american to another, simply because they vote for another party...its incredulous to me.

You call it compromise. I'm calling it bloody-minded and expressed in a manner to your fellow Americans that intends to be derogatory (calling them evil for example - what rubbish is that really) and that will only deepen mistrust, division and lack of co-operation.

By all means carry on with the language that you like to use. Call anyone who disagrees with you evil or bad. But that infantile language is whats weakening your democracy.

 

[ViaCrucis]

The liberals want to be liberated from that which the conservatives want to conserve. And what is that;

The definition of right and wrong.

in Christ, Not me

<insert made up definitions to bash other people here>
<insert me high fiving everyone afterward because I am so clever and awesome here>

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Not me]

I think you missed the point.

Maybe?

I thought the point was you searched for God and couldn’t find him??

So I was giving you a way you could know for sure and meet Him. If you wanted to.

In Christ, Not me

 

[Not me]

<insert made up definitions to bash other people here>
<insert me high fiving everyone afterward because I am so clever and awesome here>

-CryptoLutheran

Unless, it’s the truth.

Much love in Christ, Not me

 

[ViaCrucis]

Unless, it’s the truth.

Much love in Christ, Not me

It isn't, of course, so we can dismiss that possibility right away.

-Cryptolutheran

 

[Not me]

It isn't, of course, so we can dismiss that possibility right away.

-Cryptolutheran

You are welcome to if you want to. But the truth doesn’t change just because you don’t like it.

In Christ, Not me

 

[expos4ever]

Ps, Social justice is just another word for stealing.

No. You vote, and freely I might add, to be taxed.

Social justice was at the heart of Jesus's Kingdom of God proclamation.

 

[ViaCrucis]

You are welcome to if you want to. But the truth doesn’t change just because you don’t like it.

In Christ, Not me

And truth is not defined by your own personal biases and subjective opinions. Truth is not relative, truth is objective.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Not me]

No. You vote, and freely I might add, to be taxed.

Social justice was at the heart of Jesus's Kingdom of God proclamation.

Social justice is the ideology that one person is entitled to the fruit of another mans labor. That my friend, is stealing. It is not what Jesus preached. For He has quite plainly put forth, “was it not yours to do want you want with it” God is not a communist.

In Christ, Not me

 

[Zoii]

You are welcome to if you want to. But the truth doesn’t change just because you don’t like it.

In Christ, Not me

Is the truth excluded from Democrats. Does truth only belong to those who vote republican. And if truth is good and untruth is evil, is it still your contention that 50% of the USA is evil?

If you still hold to that then once again - and a) I know Im just a teen and b) I know Im Australian and as such an outsider; my view is that any line of thinking that leads you to believe that half of your fellow Americans are evil is not only wrong but its mean spirited, divisive, vitriolic and really its essentially deluded.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Social justice is the ideology that one person is entitled to the fruit of another mans labor. That my friend, is stealing. It is not what Jesus preached. For He has quite plainly put forth, “was it not yours to do want you want with it” God is not a communist.

In Christ, Not me

You don't understand what "social justice" means, and you pretty plainly don't understand what Jesus taught or was about.

Am I surprised? Not really.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Not me]

And truth is not defined by your own personal biases and subjective opinions. Truth is not relative, truth is objective.

-CryptoLutheran

Nor based on yours.

Truth is truth. Now you may not like the truth but never the less it remains the same.

You may disagree with someone’s idea of what truth is, but than the other individual or yourself could be right. “to rightfully divide the word of truth” is the deciding of the issue.

Much love in Christ, Not me

 

[ViaCrucis]

Nor based on yours.

You're right. Truth has an objectivity independent of the subjective opinions of the individual. As such, if we want the definition of "conservative" and "liberal" we need an objective source.

Perhaps you'd like to provide an objective source which offers an objective definition of "conservative" and "liberal" that conforms with what you offered in the OP?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Not me]

You don't understand what "social justice" means, and you pretty plainly don't understand what Jesus taught or was about.

Am I surprised? Not really.

-CryptoLutheran

Or maybe you don’t know what social justice is in itself?

As far as what Jesus taught or was about. I can’t speak to your relationship with Him but to encourage you to press in that you might know Him in all reality and truth.

Much love in Christ, Not me

 

[Not me]

Is the truth excluded from Democrats. Does truth only belong to those who vote republican. And if truth is good and untruth is evil, is it still your contention that 50% of the USA is evil?

If you still hold to that then once again - and a) I know Im just a teen and b) I know Im Australian and as such an outsider; my view is that any line of thinking that leads you to believe that half of your fellow Americans are evil is not only wrong but its mean spirited, divisive, vitriolic and really its essentially deluded.

Never said anything about Democrats or Republicans being evil. Only that evil is evil and good is good regardless of who’s doing it.

Much love, Not me

 

[Zoii]

Nor based on yours.

Truth is truth. Now you may not like the truth but never the less it remains the same.

You may disagree with someone’s idea of what truth is, but than the other individual or yourself could be right. “to rightfully divide the word of truth” is the deciding of the issue.

Much love in Christ, Not me

Two spaceships pass by close to each other and a boy on each ship rushes to the window to watch. Boy A declares we are stationary and that ship is moving past us to the North. Boy B declares we are stationary and that ship is moving past us to the South.

So who owns the truth here. Because it may just be both boys are right and both are moving.

Think about that before your express the arrogance of your own wisdom and ownership of the truth

 

[Not me]

You're right. Truth has an objectivity independent of the subjective opinions of the individual. As such, if we want the definition of "conservative" and "liberal" we need an objective source.

Perhaps you'd like to provide an objective source which offers an objective definition of "conservative" and "liberal" that conforms with what you offered in the OP?

-CryptoLutheran

Just truth itself, is my defense.

Question is, “is my statement true?”

How do you think God would judge the statement? For He is the arbitrator of truth.

Much love in Christ, Not me

 

[Zoii]

Never said anything about Democrats or Republicans being evil. Only that evil is evil and good is good regardless of who’s doing it.

Much love, Not me

It appeared to me and others you were making the following connections: Conservative = Truth = Good
Liberal = Untruth = Evil
I doubt I misinterpreted but Id be very glad to hear if I did. Are you saying you dont believe liberals to be untruth and thus Evil.

 

[Not me]

Two spaceships pass by close to each other and a boy on each ship rushes to the window to watch. Boy A declares we are stationary and that ship is moving past us to the North. Boy B declares we are stationary and that ship is moving past us to the South.

So who owns the truth here. Because it may just be both boys are right and both are moving.

Think about that before your express the arrogance of your own wisdom and ownership of the truth

Calling names just proves the weakness of your case.

As far as your analogy goes both are wrong because neither is stationary.

To the question of “who owns the truth” (taken out of context) but the question is good. God does. Hoping and praying that you might grow in all wisdom and knowledge and understanding for than you won’t be so quick to judge someone who speaks the truth.

“For wisdom is justified by her children “

Much love Not me

 

[Paulos23]

Maybe?

I thought the point was you searched for God and couldn’t find him??

So I was giving you a way you could know for sure and meet Him. If you wanted to.

In Christ, Not me

I have tried many ways. Nothing.

If there is a God like you claim, it knows how to find me. But based on the lack of interaction and other evidence, I don't think it is there.

Doesn't mean I am not a good person. Doesn't mean that I can't work others to a better solution to things.