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Difference between liberal & conservative

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Not me

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I am an Atheist. So no, I don't care. I care about my fellow humans more.

Your call.

Can I ask you one question?

If God is real would you want to know Him?

In Christ, Not me
 
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Liberals and conservatives are very alike in the sense that each side views the other as immoral and evil. If you love only those who love you, what good is that?
Consider that Jesus said to LOVE those who oppress you and speak evil of you.
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Your call.

Can I ask you one question?

If God is real would you want to know Him?

In Christ, Not me

Do you think I have tried? Hard to believe in someone that does not show up.
 
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Do you think I have tried? Hard to believe in someone that does not show up.


Excellent, may I be so bold as to ask you for one month, to do only righteousness. He will most assuredly show up. For one month, seek only righteousness, in all you do, say, think, dream, hope, desire. And you will run smack dab into God for;

He waits in righteousness, for those willing to walk in righteousness.

Much love in Christ, Not me
 
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What I observe of American politics is the increasing tendency of your leaders to express principles in terms of good or evil. axis of evil evil-doers "there is no neutral ground between good and evil" [quote by Bush]. This type of talk sets up divisiveness in a nation. Theres no room to find the middle ground or appreciate the other's views. It espouses that Im right therefore you are not only wrong but evil. I have noted that increasingly the level of diviseness has increased where there is almost open animosity between conservative and democratic supporters.

If a nation is to be great then it requires cooperation between leaders and a vision the entire nation can support and work towards. Terms like Right/Wrong or Good/Evil will continue to rip the country apart.

There is real Right and Wrong, but it's not defined by 'conservative' nor by 'liberal'. Not even partly. These two political labels are your culprit for the decisiveness you correctly sense.

True right and wrong are defined by the words of Jesus. Like so --

"So in everything, do to others as you would have them do to you, for this sums up the law and the prophets."
 
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The liberals want to be liberated from that which the conservatives want to conserve. And what is that;

The definition of right and wrong.

in Christ, Not me

The definition of right and wrong, from Christ, not from us...

is: Matthew 7:12

New International Version
So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

New Living Translation
"Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets.

English Standard Version
“So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.

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You've done the very thing that I believe progates the division in your nation - Pointing to the other side and calling them evil because they have a different view to yours on any given topic. If you continue to talk in this way, particularly at a leadership level, democracy weakens. The two sides of the political divide will not cooperate. My observation is that this is already happening.

My view is - stop this line of talk

That's like saying let's just tread water. If we swim for shore some will surely tire and drown, and that's not fair.
 
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The etymology of liberal is from liberalis means "pertaining to freedom". I like that.

Don't forget libertine also springs from liberal.

lib·er·tine
[ lib-er-teen, -tin]
NOUN
1.
a person who is morally or sexually unrestrained, especially a dissolute man; a profligate; rake.
2.
a freethinker in religious matters.
3.
a person freed from slavery in ancient Rome.
ADJECTIVE
4.
free of moral, especially sexual, restraint; dissolute; licentious.
5.
freethinking in religious matters.
 
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Not Me says that "I for one, do not believe a person is their brothers “meal ticket.”"

If you don't want to help anyone, what kind of person are you?
There is a difference in helping and enabling. This causes me many problems.

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I don't understand the analogy or at least how it applies to my comment

Your final comment suggests compromise; entering the gray area i.e., treading water (doing nothing that will offend the other party). Directed action is required to solve problems. In my analogy conservative take direct action to save themselves by going directly at the solution. Liberals, if they started swimming at all, would take off in all directions, or the direction that the most emotional one in the group chooses.
 
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Excellent, may I be so bold as to ask you for one month, to do only righteousness. He will most assuredly show up. For one month, seek only righteousness, in all you do, say, think, dream, hope, desire. And you will run smack dab into God for;

He waits in righteousness, for those willing to walk in righteousness.

Much love in Christ, Not me
I think you missed the point. :doh:
 
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