Difference between amillennialism & preterism

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Are there wicked angels who are chained now? If so, why is the idea ludicrous?

2Pe_2:4　 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;


Jud_1:6　 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Those Angels are the Angels that came down to earth and saw the daughters of men and saw that they where fair and took them as wives and they had childeren with them who where mixed breeds called giants or sons of anak or as they are also known as anakim.. God destroyed these offsping once in the great flood..


Genesis 6:KJV
1 "And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, {2} That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. {3} And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. {4} There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."

So satan was not one of those Angels.. He is still active on the earth and will only be cast into the bottomless pit after the battle of ammageddon on the day of the return of the LORD Jesus Christ..

Rev 11:7　 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.　

If the beast ascends out of the bottomless pit to make war upon the witnesses during the tribulation period, then where is he now?

The beast is not satan... we read in the book of Revelation:::

In context:::
Revelation 20: KJV
7 "And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, {8} And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. {9} And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. {10} And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever."

So we read above that the devil who is satan is cast into the lake of fire where the beast and the false prophet are already present... Now one may ask when did the Beast and the false prophet get thrown into the lake of fire??

We read in the Book of revelation what happens at the start of the 1000 years::

Revelation 19:KJV
11 "And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. {12} His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. {13} And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. {14} And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. {15} And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. {16} And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. {17} And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; {18} That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. {19} And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. {20} And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone."

Note satan is not cast into the eternal Lake of fire at the time of the second comming of the LORD Jesus Christ.. Only the Beast and the false prophet get to be cast into the lake of fire 1000 years before anyone else..


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[BABerean2]

Note satan is not cast into the eternal Lake of fire at the time of the second comming of the LORD Jesus Christ.. Only the Beast and the false prophet get to be cast into the lake of fire 1000 years before anyone else..

When is the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation 11?

When is the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation chapter 20?


Rev 11:15　 Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, "The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!"　

Rev 11:18　 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.　

It is at the end of the 1,000 years in Revelation 20.

Rev 20:12　 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.　

Rev 20:13　 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. (You will find the bodily resurrection and judgment of "all" the dead in John 5:27-30)

Rev 20:14　 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.　

Rev 20:15　 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

　
When does He judge the living and the dead?

2Ti 4:1　 I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom:　


The judgment of the dead occurs at His Second Coming.

Attempting to force the Book of Revelation into perfect chronology has produced the premill doctrine.

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[Biblewriter]

One cannot find a "millennium" anywhere in the gospels or epistles or anywhere else in scripture (aside from Rev 20:1-6)

Although Revelation 20 is the only place in the Bible that states that the future earthly kingdom will last a thousand years, the entire Bible is filled with clear, explicit statements about a future kingdom on this earth. And some of these passages make it plain that this kingdom will be eventually replaced with a different one.

The Church for 20 centuries has rejected the notion of a literal and future "thousand years." The presbyterians, methodists, calvinists, lutherans, catholics and every mainstream group accepted Rev 20 as part of the pattern of symbols St. John uses. For sure, the OT never mentions a millennium. The gospels never mention a millennium. The epistles never mention a millennium.

It would indeed be difficult to come up with a statement that is more completely and provably incorrect. All the Christian commentators on Bible prophecy who wrote during the church's first two centuries (and after the Revelation was given), and whose writings have been preserved, clearly taught a future millennium. This included, at the very least, Papias, Justyn Martyr, Irenaeus, Tertullian, Hippolytus, Commodianus, Lactantius, Apollinaris, and Nepos. For each of these we have either a direct statement written by the individual in question, of the statement of a church historian, that he taught chilism, which was the name used at that time of the view that there would be a literal future thousand year reign of Christ on this earth.

And even as late as the fifth century, Jerome called futurism "the traditional interpretation of all the commentators of the Christian Church."

I have personally studied the prophetic writings of the ancient church in great detail, and can provide actual quotations to back up my claims about each of the early Christian writers.

But another scholar, who was a professor of seventeenth and eighteenth century English literature, heard this false claim. So, knowing it was false, he obtained a grant for a detailed study, and catalogued a very large number of Christian writers from the 1600s and 1700s, who clearly taught both a future thousand year reign of Christ on this earth, but also a restoration of the Jewish nation, dispensationalism, and a rapture before the great tribulation. His book is titled "Dispensationalism Before Darby," by William C. Watson.

So this claim has been absolutely proved to be 100% incorrect.

Jesus, Daniel, and Paul knew nothing about a literal thousand years, and their statements show it. The just and unjust "come forth" at the same "hour" (Jn 5:27-29), and they both awake "at that time" (Dan 12:1-2). There is "A" resurrection, "both of the just and the unjust" (Acts 24:15). These facts fully refute a literal millennium. The "thousand years" is a symbol in St. John's highly symbolic vision.

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THEREFORE we know there is no literal historic millennium. The bible proves there is no literal earthly "millennium." The "thousand years" is a typological symbol in John's highly typological and symbolic vision.]

Of course neither Jesus, Daniel, nor Paul mentioned the thousand years. God did not choose to reveal this detail until He gave the Revelation. But both the New Testament and the Old Testament are filled with references to a future earthly kingdom. And even if the thousand years was only figurative, (which seems highly unlikely, seeing it was explicitly stated no less than six times) the question of whether it is literal or figurative is meaningless. For God explicitly stated that it would come after the resurrection of the saints (not just of the Lord) and before the resurrection of the wicked. So whether it lasts a literal thousand years, or just a very long time, is an insignificant detail.

 

[Biblewriter]

The idea that Satan is currently bound from deceiving the nations is outright ludicrous.

 

[BABerean2]

The idea that Satan is currently bound from deceiving the nations is outright ludicrous.

Gen 12:3　 I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you; And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed."

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When is the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation 11?

When is the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation chapter 20?


Rev 11:15　 Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, "The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!"　

Rev 11:18　 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.　

The time of the dead is the time of great slaughter that will come upon the earth during the day of the return of Jesus.. Most of the world population will be eliminated during this time of great wrath.. The judgement is the plagues and wars and starvations and great earthquakes and i believe a meteroite strike upon the earth... It is not talking about the final judgement that happens 1000 years after these events..
Also the saints will be judged at the first reasurection which happens on the day of the return of Jesus .. only Saints will be reasurected at that time and their judgement will be about rewards they shall not face the last judgement..

Revelation 20: KJV
4 "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. {5} But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. {6} Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years."




　

2Ti 4:1　 I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom:　

At His appearing He will judge the Living
And..
At the time of the Eternal Kingdom he shall judge the dead..

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[parousia70]

So satan was not one of those Angels.. He is still active on the earth

How do we know this? and what does "active on the earth" look like exactly?

Is it your claim that Human beings would be incapable of Sin and Evil without Satan being behind it, influencing and directing it from the shadows?

 

[parousia70]

The idea that Satan is currently bound from deceiving the nations is outright ludicrous.

What Power do you say Satan has today?

Can he prevent anyone from Choosing Salvation in Christ?

Satan was bound/judged/cast out by Christ's ministry, reversing satan's dominion over the People of God, granting power over all darkness to the saints, and immediately enabling the gospel to spread to all nations.
(John 12:31 and Matthew 12:28-29, Hebrews 2:14-15 and 1 John 3:8).

 

[parousia70]

Those who deny the millennial rule of Jesus on earth have to use a lot of symbolic interpretation of scriptures..

Well, Those who claim a literal future Thousand years have to to use a lot of symbolic interpretation of scriptures as well....so what's your point? Only you get to symbolize scripture?

And the belief that we are currently in a symbolic 1000 years period and that satan is somehow bound and the Saints are ruling on earth is to me ludicrous...

Satan was bound/judged/cast out by Christ's ministry, reversing satan's dominion over the People of God, granting power over all darkness to the saints, and immediately enabling the gospel to spread to all nations.
(John 12:31 and Matthew 12:28-29, Hebrews 2:14-15 and 1 John 3:8).

Jesus Christ is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords yesterday, today, and evermore. ALL power and dominion are His. There is nothing that is not already under his rule.

Matthew 28:18
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, ALL POWER is given unto me in heaven AND IN EARTH.

Any objective observer of this world should know satan is not chained up down some bottomless pit... He is here with us on earth messing around with people right left and centre..

How do you, as an objective observer know this? Have you seen Satan?

Is your claim as well that Human beings are incapable of Sin and Evil all on their own without Satan being behind it somehow?

 

[BABerean2]

At His appearing He will judge the Living
And..
At the time of the Eternal Kingdom he shall judge the dead..

When do the kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of God and Christ "forever" ?

Rev 11:15　 Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, "The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!"　


The Book of Revelation is not in chronological order.

The Second Coming is found in those hiding from the wrath of the Lamb at the end of chapter 6.

At the end of chapter 11.

In the "harvest" of chapter 14.

When He "comes as a thief" in Revelation 16:15-16.

In chapter 19.

And in chapter 20.
Based on 2 Thessalonians chapter 1, He returns in "flaming fire" at His Second Coming.

2Th 1:7　 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels,　

2Th 1:8　 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.　

2Th 1:9　 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,　

2Th 1:10　 when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed.　

When does the fire come in Revelation 20?

Rev 20:9　 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them.　

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[Biblewriter]

What Power do you say Satan has today?

Can he prevent anyone from Choosing Salvation in Christ?

Satan was bound/judged/cast out by Christ's ministry, reversing satan's dominion over the People of God, granting power over all darkness to the saints, and immediately enabling the gospel to spread to all nations.
(John 12:31 and Matthew 12:28-29, Hebrews 2:14-15 and 1 John 3:8).

Are you going to actually pretend that Satan is unable to deceive nations at the present time? Have you never heard of Islam and Communism, to say nothing of all the other isms that worship false gods?

 

[BABerean2]

Are you going to actually pretend that Satan is unable to deceive nations at the present time? Have you never heard of Islam and Communism, to say nothing of all the other isms that worship false gods?

Every nation that contains at least one Christian cannot been totally deceived by Satan.

The underground Church in communist China is growing by leaps and bounds.

At one time, my wife and I supported a missionary in Jordan, who was taking the Gospel to the Arab peoples who had been raised by Moslem families.


We are in a battle for the souls of all men and women in all nations.

Do we focus on those we are winning or those we are losing?

Mat 16:16　 Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."　

Mat 16:17　 Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.　

Mat 16:18　 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.　

Mat 16:19　 And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

　

I am not pretending anything. I am well aware of the battle in which we are engaged.
The good news is that our side wins in the end, because the gates of Hades cannot prevail against His New Covenant Church.

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[Biblewriter]

Every nation that contains at least one Christian cannot been totally deceived by Satan.

The underground Church in communist China is growing by leaps and bounds.

At one time, my wife and I supported a missionary in Jordan, who was taking the Gospel to the Arab peoples who had been raised by Moslem families.


We are in a battle for the souls of all men and women in all nations.

Do we focus on those we are winning or those we are losing?

Mat 16:16　 Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."　

Mat 16:17　 Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.　

Mat 16:18　 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.　

Mat 16:19　 And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

　

I am not pretending anything. I am well aware of the battle in which we are engaged.
The good news is that our side wins in the end, because the gates of Hades cannot prevail against His New Covenant Church.

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The scripture in question says absolutely nothing about being able to totally deceive ( that is, to deceive every person in) a nation. It only speaks of his being able to "deceive the nations no more." It is irrational to pretend that Satan is not presently deceiving the nations.

 

[BABerean2]

It is irrational to pretend that Satan is not presently deceiving the nations.

It is also irrational to claim that the "first resurrection" in Revelation chapter 20 is a bodily resurrection of the dead and still believe the pretrib doctrine at the same time.

It is irrational to ignore the "time of the judgment of the dead" in Revelation 11:18.

It is irrational to claim that the 7th trumpet in Revelation 11:15 is not the last trumpet, when there is no 8th trumpet.

It is irrational to believe that mortals will live to great age but still die, after Christ returns to earth.
Nobody seems to think that Christ, who defeated sin and death at Calvary, will preside at their funeral services during the millennium.

It is irrational to ignore the fact that Peter was looking for the New Heavens and the New Earth on the Day of the Lord, when He returns as a thief. ( 2 Peter 3:10-13)

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[Biblewriter]

It is also irrational to claim that the "first resurrection" in Revelation chapter 20 is a bodily resurrection of the dead and still believe the pretrib doctrine at the same time.

Your answers here, as is so common in your answers, simply ignores the question you are supposedly answering. But, be that as it may, the first resurrection, in the context of this passage, is being contrasted to the second resurrection, which the text explicitly states will not take place "until the thousand years were finished." But as usual, you do not want to even consider the context of a passage.

It is irrational to ignore the "time of the judgment of the dead" in Revelation 11:18.

You seem to be pretending that the Revelation is given in chronological order. But the fact that this is completely incorrect can be clearly seen in the very next passage, which goes all the way back to the birth of Christ.

It is irrational to claim that the 7th trumpet in Revelation 11:15 is not the last trumpet, when there is no 8th trumpet.

Again, on the context of the passage, the meaning is clearly the last trumpet that will be blown at that time. The words “at the last trumpet” cannot mean "at the last trumpet that will ever be blown." For we read in Zechariah 9:13-14, “‘I have bent Judah, My bow, Fitted the bow with Ephraim, And raised up your sons, O Zion, Against your sons, O Greece, And made you like the sword of a mighty man.’ Then the Lord will be seen over them, And His arrow will go forth like lightning. The Lord GOD will blow the trumpet, And go with whirlwinds from the south.” So we see “The Lord GOD” Himself blowing “the trumpet” over “Judah” and “Ephraim” as they go together to fight against the “sons” of “Greece.” But Isaiah 11:11-14 and Ezekiel 37:21-22 both show that the reunion of Judah and Ephraim, and their united military campaigns, will be after the Lord has brought them back to the land. And Isaiah 66 shows it is only after the Lord has “come with fire... To render His anger with fury, And His rebuke with flames of fire” (Isaiah 66:15) that all Israel will be brought back to their land. (For more detail on this see pages 192 to 193.) Now it is clear that the rapture cannot be after the Lord has “come with fire... To render His anger with fury, And His rebuke with flames of fire.” So the Bible explicitly speaks of a trumpet that will be blown after the time of the rapture. Thus we see that the words “at the last trumpet” cannot mean that the rapture takes place at the last trumpet that will ever be blown. So they do not prove that the rapture will be after the tribulation.

It is irrational to believe that mortals will live to great age but still die, after Christ returns to earth.
Nobody seems to think that Christ, who defeated sin and death at Calvary, will preside at their funeral services during the millennium.

In this case, you are claiming that it s irrational to believe what the Bible explicitly days.

It is irrational to ignore the fact that Peter was looking for the New Heavens and the New Earth on the Day of the Lord, when He returns as a thief. ( 2 Peter 3:10-13)

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The passage you are citing here neither says nor even implies that Peter was expecting the New Heavens and the New Earth to come at the time the Lord returns as a thief. All it says is, "Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells." 2 Peter 3:13

This is typical of your continual assumption that your interpretation pf what a passage means is what it says. You are continually failing to apply the very basic rule of scriptural interpretation, that it is critical to draw a fine line between what the Bible actually says, and what you think those words mean. You continually blur that line, and this failure leads you into numerous errors.

 

[BABerean2]

This is typical of your continual assumption that your interpretation pf what a passage means is what it says. You are continually failing to apply the very basic rule of scriptural interpretation, that it is critical to draw a fine line between what the Bible actually says, and what you think those words mean. You continually blur that line, and this failure leads you into numerous errors.

Yes. I have the very strange idea that the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, is found fulfilled by Christ in Hebrews 8:6-13, and it is specifically applied to the Church in Hebrews 12:22-24, and 2 Corinthians 3:6-8.

I actually acknowledge that Peter addressed the crowd as Israelites in Acts chapter 2, and I even admit that when the Church first began almost all of its members were Israelites.

Thank you for continuing to correct my strange doctrine...

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How do we know this? and what does "active on the earth" look like exactly?

Is it your claim that Human beings would be incapable of Sin and Evil without Satan being behind it, influencing and directing it from the shadows?

The angels who left heaven and had realtions with human woman did so before the flood.. They where cast into prison for doing that...

Job lived after the flood.. In the Book of Job we read that satan at the time of Job had freedom of movement between heaven and hell.. The book of Job also shows that the angels where referred to as the sons of God

Job 1:KJV
6 "¶ Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. {7} And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. {8} And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?"

So satan was not locked up in hell during the times of Job.. We also read of satan having access to Jesus Himself when Jesus was on earth. When satan tempted Jesus when Jesus was fasting for 40 days..

Even Peter in his letters clearly stated that satan / the devil roams the earth seeking whom he can deceive..

1 Peter 5: KJV
{8} Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: {9} Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world."

Satans activity on earth along with his demons is to lead the lost to fulfill his plans to bring as many humans as possible into the eternal lake of fire as possible.. He uses the Children of disobedience to deceive others..

Ephesians 2:KJV
2 "Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:"

The prince of the air is a title for satan..

 

[parousia70]

Satans activity on earth along with his demons is to lead the lost to fulfill his plans.

So you agree he no longer has has any power over the elect then?
Only the lost?

And again, is your point that humans are incapable of committing the most grave and evil sins without Satan "leading them" somehow?

And if it's only the lost he has power over, what more defeat can he suffer?

Do you claim one day even the lost will share in Christ and the saints victory over him?

 

[Biblewriter]

So you agree he no longer has has any power over the elect then?
Only the lost?

And again, is your point that humans are incapable of committing the most grave and evil sins without Satan "leading them" somehow?

And if it's only the lost he has power over, what more defeat can he suffer?

Do you claim one day even the lost will share in Christ and the saints victory over him?

You are completely wresting the scripture in question, which says absolutely nothing about Satan's power over the elect, but about his power to deceive the nations. It is utter nonsense to even pretend that, at the present time, Satan is not able to deceive the nations. For we plainly see the evidence of this deceit everywhere.

 

[BABerean2]

You are completely wresting the scripture in question, which says absolutely nothing about Satan's power over the elect, but about his power to deceive the nations. It is utter nonsense to even pretend that, at the present time, Satan is not able to deceive the nations. For we plainly see the evidence of this deceit everywhere.

Is the glass half full, or half empty?

Why would anyone claim one of the above and claim the other is "utter nonsense"?

Col 2:13　 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,　
Col 2:14　 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.　
Col 2:15　 Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.　

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