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Did Jesus give us an Eleventh Commandment?

How do you see Jesus' new commandment?

  • An additional commandment brings the total commandments to eleven in the new covenant.

    Votes: 1 25.0%
  • A replacement of the ten previous commandments where we no longer have to keep the Sabbath.

    Votes: 3 75.0%

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Leaf473

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Brother, happy Sabbath! I believe ἐντολή is applied to the instruction about divorce here,

But Jesus responded, “He wrote this commandment only as a concession to your hard hearts.
Bible Gateway passage: Mark 10 - New Living Translation

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Brother, Moses had made a "concession" to their "hard hearts" of the Seventh Commandment on "adultery", but it was not as God intended from the beginning.

But Jesus responded, “He wrote this commandment only as a concession to your hard hearts. But ‘God made them male and female’ from the beginning of creation. ‘This explains why a man leaves his father and mother and is joined to his wife, and the two are united into one.’ Since they are no longer two but one, let no one split apart what God has joined together.” Later, when he was alone with his disciples in the house, they brought up the subject again. He told them, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries someone else commits adultery against her. And if a woman divorces her husband and marries someone else, she commits adultery.” (Mark 10:5-12 NLT)​

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Brother, happy Sabbath! I agree it was a concession. Jesus describes it as "ἐντολὴν".
Mark 10:5 Interlinear: And Jesus answering said to them, 'For the stiffness of your heart he wrote you this command,

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Brother, what Moses did because of their "hard hearts" to the Seventh Commandment is the opposite of what Jesus expects of us under the new covenant. Moses relaxed the Seventh Commandment while Jesus "surpassed" the righteousness of the Seventh Commandment.

“You have heard the commandment that says, ‘You must not commit adultery.’ But I say, anyone who even looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart. So if your eye—even your good eye—causes you to lust, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your hand—even your stronger hand—causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. (Matthew 5:27-30 NLT)​

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Brother, happy first day! I agree that Jesus doesn't want divorce. But he calls what Moses gave a commandment, "ἐντολὴν".

While it's true that Jesus doesn't want divorce, the idea I was responding to is that ἐντολή only refers to the 10/11 commandments.

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Brother, Jesus did not call the commandment of Moses an additional or new commandment, but speaks of it as a "concession" of the Seventh Commandment and therefore calls it a commandment because it is a "concession" of the Seventh Commandment.

But Jesus responded, “He wrote this commandment only as a concession to your hard hearts. But ‘God made them male and female’ from the beginning of creation. ‘This explains why a man leaves his father and mother and is joined to his wife, and the two are united into one.’ Since they are no longer two but one, let no one split apart what God has joined together.” Later, when he was alone with his disciples in the house, they brought up the subject again. He told them, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries someone else commits adultery against her. And if a woman divorces her husband and marries someone else, she commits adultery.” (Mark 10:5-12 NLT)​

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Brother, happy first day! That's right, Jesus doesn't say it's an additional or new ἐντολή. But he does call it an ἐντολή.

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Brother, happy first day!
Brother, the Sabbath is not a day of the week to treat a day of the week as you would the Sabbath. It is not everywhere the first day when it is the first day in Eden, as the Sabbath is everywhere entered when it is the seventh day in Eden. The days of the week are different than the Sabbath.

So God’s rest is there for people to enter, but those who first heard this good news failed to enter because they disobeyed God. So God set another time for entering his rest, and that time is today. God announced this through David much later in the words already quoted: “Today when you hear his voice, don’t harden your hearts.” Now if Joshua had succeeded in giving them this rest, God would not have spoken about another day of rest still to come. So there is a special rest still waiting for the people of God. For all who have entered into God’s rest have rested from their labors, just as God did after creating the world. So let us do our best to enter that rest. But if we disobey God, as the people of Israel did, we will fall. (Hebrews 4:6-11 NLT)​

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Brother, happy first day! That's right, Jesus doesn't say it's an additional or new ἐντολή. But he does call it an ἐντολή. United in searching the scriptures!
Brother, Jesus calls it a commandment because it is a "concession" of the Seventh Commandment.

But Jesus responded, “He wrote this commandment only as a concession to your hard hearts. But ‘God made them male and female’ from the beginning of creation. ‘This explains why a man leaves his father and mother and is joined to his wife, and the two are united into one.’ Since they are no longer two but one, let no one split apart what God has joined together.” Later, when he was alone with his disciples in the house, they brought up the subject again. He told them, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries someone else commits adultery against her. And if a woman divorces her husband and marries someone else, she commits adultery.” (Mark 10:5-12 NLT)​

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Brother, as Philippians tells us, Rejoice in the Lord always!

I believe this is the first day of the week, creation time zone and according to your calculations.

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Brother, Jesus asks the man, Τί ὑμῖν ἐνετείλατο Μωϋσῆς?

ἐνετείλατο is the verb form of ἐντολή, I'm pretty sure.

The man answers, and Jesus says, Πρὸς τὴν σκληροκαρδίαν ὑμῶν ἔγραψεν ὑμῖν τὴν ἐντολὴν ταύτην.

"τὴν ἐντολὴν ταύτην" refers to what ἐντολή? Not the 7th commandment, although that is related. It refers to the Commandment that the man just said, about giving her a certificate of divorce.

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Brother, then you see it differently than Jesus saw it as a "concession" of the Seventh Commandment and not as a separate commandment from the Seventh Commandment.

But Jesus responded, “He wrote this commandment only as a concession to your hard hearts. But ‘God made them male and female’ from the beginning of creation. ‘This explains why a man leaves his father and mother and is joined to his wife, and the two are united into one.’ Since they are no longer two but one, let no one split apart what God has joined together.” Later, when he was alone with his disciples in the house, they brought up the subject again. He told them, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries someone else commits adultery against her. And if a woman divorces her husband and marries someone else, she commits adultery.” (Mark 10:5-12 NLT)​

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Follow up idea: all the commandments are related, because we know the entire law is related to the first and second greatest commandments.
Brother, yes! However, Jesus tells us He had the Ten Commandments as the minimum He requires to inherit eternal life. This minimum now has an additional new Eleventh Commandment to "follow" His example, not possible before Jesus, bringing the total to Eleven Commandments in the new covenant.

Once a religious leader asked Jesus this question: “Good Teacher, what should I do to inherit eternal life?” “Why do you call me good?” Jesus asked him. “Only God is truly good. But to answer your question, you know the commandments: ‘You must not commit adultery. You must not murder. You must not steal. You must not testify falsely. Honor your father and mother.’” The man replied, “I’ve obeyed all these commandments since I was young.” When Jesus heard his answer, he said, “There is still one thing you haven’t done. Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” (Luke 18:18-22 NLT)​

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Brother, it is a concession, it is not the same commandment.

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Brother, are you saying that a person can openly disregard this commandment and still inherit eternal life?

But you must never eat any meat that still has the lifeblood in it.
Bible Gateway passage: Genesis 9 - New Living Translation

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Brother, it is a concession, it is not the same commandment. United in searching the scriptures!
Brother, the "concession" did not change the number of commandments, just as the following "surpassing" did not change the number of commandments.

“You have heard the commandment that says, ‘You must not commit adultery.’ But I say, anyone who even looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart. So if your eye—even your good eye—causes you to lust, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your hand—even your stronger hand—causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. (Matthew 5:27-30 NLT)​

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Brother, no! That is an earlier covenant, not disputed and assumed by Jesus, kept by the young man from his youth, as James tells us, so as not to "make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God". Since the Gentiles did not know God at all, they were told what was fundamental in addition to the Ten Commandments, assuming that they would grow slowly in obedience to the rest of the laws of Moses as they heard them every Sabbath.

When they had finished, James stood and said, “Brothers, listen to me. Peter has told you about the time God first visited the Gentiles to take from them a people for himself. And this conversion of Gentiles is exactly what the prophets predicted. As it is written: ‘Afterward I will return and restore the fallen house of David. I will rebuild its ruins and restore it, so that the rest of humanity might seek the LORD, including the Gentiles—all those I have called to be mine. The LORD has spoken—he who made these things known so long ago.’ “And so my judgment is that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. Instead, we should write and tell them to abstain from eating food offered to idols, from sexual immorality, from eating the meat of strangled animals, and from consuming blood. For these laws of Moses have been preached in Jewish synagogues in every city on every Sabbath for many generations.” (Acts 15:13-21 NLT)​

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Brother, true! It doesn't change the number of commandments. I believe we've talked about 12 so far.

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Brother, then I believe that would make 13.

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