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Did God send this virus into the world

Dan1988

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Just wondering what your view is about Gods hatred towards some and love towards others.
There are many passages in the Bible, where it speaks of His hatred towards individuals and entire ethnic groups.
God said, He hated Esau and He also said He hated the Nicolodians. He also commanded His people to kill entire ethnic groups, including all of their children and animals. That doesn't sound like a God who loves everyone, just as they are.
My understanding is, He loves all of those in Christ and those whom He has chosen to join the body at a later time. He chooses people before they're even born.
To say that God loves everyone unconditionally, just as they are is not supported by Gods Word as we have it in the Holy Scriptures.
 
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As we know, the Church is divided into two camps on the question of God's sovereignty.
I believe that God is sovereign over all things, and that He preordained all things that come to pass.
There are just too many passages of scripture that affirm this, for me to ignore them or gloss over them.
If man determines his destiny, then God is not sovereign and He doesn't have full control of His creation. It would also mean that He's not all mighty and not all powerful.
I used to be of the view, that God created everything and just sat back and let it all unravel randomly. But after some years of Bible study, I found that this view didn't line up with scripture.
 
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God is Holy first of all, and his holiness informs every other attribute including his love. The Bible tells God is sovereign over events in this world, nothing will ultimately thwart his purposes. He can use events like this to His glory, just as he used the death of Lazarus.

What matters is our soul and that we are rightly related to God through Jesus Christ.

I believe its not inconsistent for God to use a disease as an instrument of discipline or judgement and on the same time in Providence provide medical care also.

We are enjoined to pray for this time of sickness to end. The Book of Common prayer has this prayer also:

O ALMIGHTY God, who in thy wrath didst send a plague upon thine own people in the wilderness, for their obstinate rebellion against Moses and Aaron; and also, in the time of king David, didst slay with the plague of pestilence threescore and ten thousand, and yet, remembering thy mercy, didst save the rest: Have pity upon us miserable sinners, who now are visited with great sickness and mortality; that, like as thou didst then accept of an atonement, and didst command the destroying angel to cease from punishing, so it may now please thee to withdraw from us this plague and grievous sickness; through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.​


There are things humans can do to be better prepared for this sort of eventuality, as we are seeing with South Korea.

Many of the dead are over 70, threescore and ten is said in the Bible to be mans allotted time on Earth (see Psalm 90)

The Media coverage sometimes distorts the reality.

Facts about Covid-19

On Corona, the Media, and Propaganda

Until we have randomised tests done how do we put the deaths in context, of the real spread of the virus.

Francis Schaeffer has a good section on this in one of his books and in particular in reference to Camus's La Peste (The Plague). I don't have the book at hand at this moment, but I think its in The God Who Is There.
 
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Sin = death.. at the end of your life on earth.. an eternal death.. Born once... die twice. Born twice... die once....

Sin doesn't cause one to get sick... Sin in this world broke it.. now sickness, disease, sadness and pain exist in this world.
Are the wages of sin death? Did God create the plagues means of existing in history? Have you read Romans 1 that tells us what to expect when sin takes over? Revelation with wars, famine, pestilence (plagues) and such sent by God on the world?
 
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Is homosexuality sin according to the bible?
 
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I understand that.. it was you asking why pray "if God isn't behind everything good or bad"?
Prayer places us in the position of receiving from God. He causes us to pray and then receive.
 
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They all get weak and die.
 
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The OT and Revelation are two very unique times in history.. I already stated that God used to punish the Hebrews... In revelation... which is mostly after the end of the days of grace.. times will be different again.
Revelation is world history viewed from the new heavens and earth back to Jesus' birth and more.
 
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It's true, not even a sparrow drops dead without God. All have a date with death at a precise time through a precise means.
 
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Every choice you make is a reaction to a reason God used to control your free choices. You produce nothing he didn't plan.
 
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It's true, not even a sparrow drops dead without God. All have a date with death at a precise time through a precise means.
God knows what is going to happen. That doesn’t mean that God sends disasters and pandemics to kill people. The Titanic, 9-11 and the current virus are the doings of man not God.
 
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God's hatred is righteous. It is always based on the actions and hearts of those He has been stated to hate. They are already opposed to Him and His ways.
To understand why God asked to have entire tribes and people and animals killed... you have to look into who they were and what they were doing. God was preparing a nation, Israel, to bring our savior into the world. The Hebrew nation needed to be pure in it's generations and the people that He asked them to wipe out would have corrupted the Hebrew nation. Look at Haman... this is a good place to start when you want to see what happens when a tiny thread is left for Satan to pull on.. He almost succeeded in wiping out the people of Israel
 
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Why doesn't God prevent it if he is all-powerful?
This is the question of evil, it is certainly relevant to this thread but will completely derail the thread if we address it. I suggest you start a new thread, just for Christians (atheists will be drawn to this thread like flies to honey and make it very unpleasant to have a biblical discussion). If you do that I think it would be a very interesting thread.

I have created a thread to answer this question "How could God allow this?"
 
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The question should be why does God pour so many blessings out on us, not why does he allow evil to exist.
 
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Is this because you will shoot your own foot if you answer it?
 
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The question should be why does God pour so many blessings out on us, not why does he allow evil to exist.
The "problem of evil" is a logical argument created by Atheists to deny God exists (you can google it, there is a wikipedia page for it). I highly doubt they would phrase their question the way you have.

However, I have created a thread "How could God allow this?" to address this question. It is for Christians only in the apologetics forum.
 
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