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What is evil....? What is sin other than lawlessness? Whose laws are we taking about n evil is always brought up in the likeness of humans.
Do you u want to know how to act around a King or your King!? Knowing the precepts, concepts n statues are very important... Most do not even know what kingdom or kingship means... The bible is a constitution n a bridal agreement.... If we take on the Holy Spirit the laws are a promise not a bunch of taxing does n don't'sThe word for sin in the original Koine Greek text of the NT is hamartia, which means "to miss the mark," which implies a broader definition of sin than strictly a matter of religious legislation.
And the groom said we could follow just two simple rules and deal is struck - with the intent of all the prior laws also being met without needing to concern ourselves.Do you u want to know how to act around a King or your King!? Knowing the precepts, concepts n statues are very important... Most do not even know what kingdom or kingship means... The bible is a constitution n a bridal agreement.... If we take on the Holy Spirit the laws are a promise not a bunch of taxing does n don't's
Be holy for I am holy!?And the groom said we could follow just two simple rules and deal is struck - with the intent of all the prior laws also being met without needing to concern ourselves.
Hillsage, 2knowhim and others in defense of Universal Reconciliation (UR), have argued that God created evil.
I have defended the traditional orthodox view that God is All Good and maintain that one cannot say that God is All Good and believe He creates the opposite. Certainly evil is a part of our reality, but it directly caused by the acts of God's creatures rather than God Himself. The only thing one can say God did in that regard is to give those creatures (angels and us) the freedom to love Him or not. It would be the not loving All Good which brings evil from purely a potential to reality.
You are limiting your God's power. An omnipotent being can do anything it so desires. It doesn't have to create good and evil. It could just create good (or evil).God did not intend to create evil. I will say when God made the light, it was mixed with the Darkness, then god seperates them. The same happens with Wisdom, folly comes as a by product, the opposite of Wisdom, and with the truth also, as God creates the Word, truth and untruth are made with it(true word and untrue words)- and they are then seperated. The liar is born by god making Truth- but you cant get rid of the liar, you would have to get rid of truth also, to do so. To say to get rid of the devil you have to get rid of the word completely.
You notice a change tho- after the Lair tempts Eve, the liars is cursed by God and so changes from his orginal form. into the dragon we know of today.
So yeah God did not intend for evil, but things created have their opposites, with darkness there is light, with truth there is lies, and with wisdom there is folly. The opposite sides of a Spirit of a thing, seperated by god after there creation.
So what you are saying is that God created the possibility for evil? That's like putting gasoline and matches in front of an arsonist. They'll always start burning crap just how we will always commit sin.As Plato, a pagan, postulated the concept of a benevolent deity being also evil are not compatible. One or the other not both. So we can have good deities and we can have evil deities. We cannot have a deity that is or does both.
I like craps. Am certain He knows the outcome of every roll, yet He did not/does not fix the game. Could He intervene in a craps game - sure and absolutely. Bear with me as this is new analogy/thought for me and analogies can ONLY go so far - not saying it is perfect but it makes the point.
In craps after a point (good) is established a seven on the next roll represents a bad thing (evil) to most players. Lets say a point has been made and we have only one more role in the history of mankind. It comes up seven (evil). Does the fact we could say He "made" dice, which created a potential for that seven, mean that God created the evil that just occurred?
My point is yes God made everything. He also knows everything that will be. And some things, like that dice roll, He made as outcomes of contingency. Meaning that next role did not HAVE to be a seven. It could have been the result of 30 other possible outcomes producing 11 other totals besides 7 instead. So when God "made" dice that "seven" was only a potential outcome. Meaning it was NOT necessary that the 7 had to be that next roll.
So before that last roll, we can say only that God made "seven" a potential outcome. And after that role, unless we believe God Himself intervened in that contingent outcome for some reason (which He could), we can only say that when He "created" dice He ALLOWED that the "seven" was possible and in this particular case allowed it to occure - rather than MAKING/CREATING/DOING a seven (evil).
Consider for the large part of the angels that the seven (evil) was not a certainty when He made any of them. Evil was not a certainty when He made Satan, the one angel who helped make that seven (evil) a part of our reality. It was a contingency because God made them all free to choose. So it was Satan's actions, not God's that made the seven (evil) real. The fact most angels did not sin proves that act was a choice for all angels. That choice is a two sided dice for every creature that God gave such a choice. In our experience that Gift includes only the angels first and then mankind second. So the outcome of that choice would be already be known to God, but He freely gave it creatures He made to Love Him.
Could He have given us no choice but to Love Him? Sure He could have. But what kind of Love for us would/do we call it where we are forced to return it. What would be the value of forcing someone to love us?
God did not create evil. God looked at all that He created and saw that it was GOOD. God created all things GOOD, He didn't mess up and create a couple of bad things. Jesus Christ created all things:
You are limiting your God's power. An omnipotent being can do anything it so desires. It doesn't have to create good and evil. It could just create good (or evil).
What is evil n who defined evil? Has evil been persuaded by ones own mined n definitions or the Holy Word of Yahweh!?To a degree the issue is freedom, god gave men freedom and some use that freedom to do evil, as a consiquence of giving something Good freedom- men have the ability to be Evil.
I certainly do not seek to limit God and I know God is good. As such God created good things, but as a side effect bad things came to.
And that reality Proves God Good, he did not seek any evil, to exist.
What is evil n who defined evil? Has evil been persuaded by ones own mined n definitions or the Holy Word of Yahweh!?
Jesus did not sin. Mary did not sin. Several folks from the OT are said to in some way have reached a state with God such they by-passed death - which to me suggests at the very least they stopped sinning. The large majority of the angels did not sin and they were made the same way/time Satan was.So what you are saying is that God created the possibility for evil? That's like putting gasoline and matches in front of an arsonist. They'll always start burning crap just how we will always commit sin.
Do you not yet understand that the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is your own family tree .... your genealogy .... it is your families (ancestors) laws that have been handed down from one generation to the next as to what they think is good and what is evil ..... do you believe everyone had it right? I don't when it comes to my own family tree.
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