Did Christ die the second death for us

[mva1985]

If The Wages Of Sin Is Death,
Did Christ Really Die In Our Place On The Cross?​

Isa 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
Isa 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.​

Isa 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
Isa 53:11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
Isa 53:12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.​

Christ laid down His life for our sins. Death is the penalty for sin, and that is precisely the price Christ paid in our place.​

1 Cor 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;​

2 Cor 5:14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
2 Cor 5:15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.​

2 Cor 5:21 For he hath made him (Christ) to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.​

Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:​

Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Rom 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
Rom 6:9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
Rom 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
Rom 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.​

1 Th 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
1 Th 5:10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.​

1 Pet 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
1 Pet 2:22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:
1 Pet 2:23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:
1 Pet 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.​

1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.​

1 John 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
1 John 4:10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.​

 

[Pythons]

The second death, Biblically, is when both body and soul are cast into hell (as in together). Suggesting that Christ participated in the second death is to suggest Christ was lazy, a coward and a murderer and also sexually active. I can't think of a more bizarre and hair raising teaching then this.

Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit, through whom also he went and preached to the spirits in prison

The lake of fire is the second death

But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

Jesus was indeed "put to death in the flesh" and while His "flesh was dead" Jesus took the theif to paradise and then preached to all the spirits in prison. I don't know of anyone who is Christian that would suggest that Jesus' death wasn't the most spectacular thing the world has ever witnessed so it's a hard pill to swallow when a teaching is developed for the express purpose of protecting the dotrine of Soul Sleeping.

If the Investigative Judgment requires that those who've previously died did not start a process of Judgment until the mid 1800's (until this time all people were in soul sleep) then,

How could someone who lived in the day's of Noah up until Christ's birth believe in Him if they were not (as the Bible plainly says) visited by Christ Himself in Hell. That was the point of the visit according to the text.

He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit, through whom also he went and preached to the spirits in prison who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built.

If at the time Christ's flesh was dead He was preaching to spirits in prison (Scripture proof following)

if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment

If you are unrighteous and God is holding you FOR the day of judgment WHILE CONTINUING YOUR PUNISHMENT I can assure you that your soul is not sleeping, it only waiting for it's body to join it in Hell.

The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried. In hell, where he was in torment

The Rich man and Lazarus both experienced the 1st death and Lazarus had nothing to fear because the second death will have no power over him. If the Rich man for whatever reason rejected Jesus when He went to preach to "THE SPIRITS" in prison then the 2nd death is what's in store for the rich man because as the Bible plainly says it's for man to die once then after death judgment. The only way for God to "hold the evil" until the General Judgment WHILE continuing their punishment is for the punishment to continue. Claiming that Christ died the second death is, in my view, an attempt to hide the fact that Soul sleeping can't be correct in light of the Scriptures that say when the "resurrected body" enters hell is the second death.

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment

 

[mva1985]

The second death, Biblically, is when both body and soul are cast into hell (as in together). Suggesting that Christ participated in the second death is to suggest Christ was lazy, a coward and a murderer and also sexually active. I can't think of a more bizarre and hair raising teaching then this.

Adventists do not believe that Christ was sexually active nor is that necessary for Him to have experienced the Second Death.

The parable of the rich man and Lazarus is not an example of what happens after the death of the body.

 

[mva1985]

From dictionary.com:

par·a·ble
1.a short allegorical story designed to illustrate or teach some truth, religious principle, or moral lesson. 2.a statement or comment that conveys a meaning indirectly by the use of comparison, analogy, or the like.

 

[Pythons]

Adventists do not believe that Christ was sexually active nor is that necessary for Him to have experienced the Second Death.

How do you figure? Revelation 20,14 explicitly states that "the Lake of Fire IS the second death".

Revelation 21,8 again affirms that the Lake of Fire IS the second death & the people who participate in it are murderers, sexually immoral, whichcraft practiitioner's & liars.

If Scripture identifies the second death as coming after the first and that the just need not fear it because it's reserved only for the unsaved what business does Christ have entering it, given the second death was prepared for the Devil and his angels (C.O.D children of the Devil included)?

Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

The parable of the rich man and Lazarus is not an example of what happens after the death of the body.

How do you figure? A parable must be possible for it to teach a truth. Name one parable of Jesus where He suggests a truth with something impossible.

 

[reddogs]

How do you figure? Revelation 20,14 explicitly states that "the Lake of Fire IS the second death".

Revelation 21,8 again affirms that the Lake of Fire IS the second death & the people who participate in it are murderers, sexually immoral, whichcraft practiitioner's & liars.

If Scripture identifies the second death as coming after the first and that the just need not fear it because it's reserved only for the unsaved what business does Christ have entering it, given the second death was prepared for the Devil and his angels (C.O.D children of the Devil included)?








How do you figure? A parable must be possible for it to teach a truth. Name one parable of Jesus where He suggests a truth with something impossible.

No, the eternal seperation from God is what the lake of fire accomplishes and is essentially the 2nd death, since the first death as Christ make clear with Lazarus and Jairus daughter is just a sleep of the grave.

The eternal seperation from God is the equivalent of 'everlasting death' versus 'everlasting life', so Christs faced a seperation at the cross that if He had sinned would have been 'everlasting'. The first death can become eternal (or 2nd death) if we do not accept Christs gift of eternal life, but it essentially is the first part or the 'death of the grave', where we still can be brought back and have not been seperated eternally from God or essentially cease to exist. When Lazuras died, he did not cease to exist as Christ so vividly showed, and when Jarius daughter died, Christ made clear that she was just 'asleep'. But when the wicked recieve the eternal death of the seperation from God, there will be no coming back or awaking from the sleep of the grave or Hades, it will be the point of no return..


A Dead Girl and a Sick Woman
Luke 8
40Now when Jesus returned, a crowd welcomed him, for they were all expecting him. 41Then a man named Jairus, a ruler of the synagogue, came and fell at Jesus' feet, pleading with him to come to his house 42because his only daughter, a girl of about twelve, was dying.
As Jesus was on his way, the crowds almost crushed him. 43And a woman was there who had been subject to bleeding for twelve years,[d] but no one could heal her. 44She came up behind him and touched the edge of his cloak, and immediately her bleeding stopped.
45"Who touched me?" Jesus asked.
When they all denied it, Peter said, "Master, the people are crowding and pressing against you."
46But Jesus said, "Someone touched me; I know that power has gone out from me."
47Then the woman, seeing that she could not go unnoticed, came trembling and fell at his feet. In the presence of all the people, she told why she had touched him and how she had been instantly healed. 48Then he said to her, "Daughter, your faith has healed you. Go in peace."

49While Jesus was still speaking, someone came from the house of Jairus, the synagogue ruler. "Your daughter is dead," he said. "Don't bother the teacher any more."
50Hearing this, Jesus said to Jairus, "Don't be afraid; just believe, and she will be healed."
51When he arrived at the house of Jairus, he did not let anyone go in with him except Peter, John and James, and the child's father and mother. 52Meanwhile, all the people were wailing and mourning for her. "Stop wailing," Jesus said. "She is not dead but asleep." 53They laughed at him, knowing that she was dead. 54But he took her by the hand and said, "My child, get up!" 55Her spirit returned, and at once she stood up. Then Jesus told them to give her something to eat. 56Her parents were astonished, but he ordered them not to tell anyone what had happened.


Christ indeed was seperated from God at the cross, which is essentially the second death. It was the human side of Christ which had to face eternal death, because thats exactly how he could save us from sin. He could resurrect because He had no sin, this is an encouragement to us that if we die in Him we would likewise be resurrected coverered by His rightesouness, but for sinners they face a eternal seperation from God or eternal death at the lake of fire from which there is no resurrection.

 

[TrustAndObey]

VERY well said, Red!

 

[oldsage]

All death is the same. Ok, lets take death from the SDA perspective since I to am a monist when it comes to biblical anthropology.

When one dies what happens? That spark of life which God gave to back to Him and he dies. Because in Him we live and move and have our being.

No, the dead know nothing, the soul is dead. They are in fact at this point separated from God the life giver. This happens to everyone.

Now, what is difference in the first and second death? The resurrection.

The first death there is a resurrection. The second death there is no resurrection.

The cross made the distinction of two types of death, prior to the cross there was only death, not first or second, just death.

Now Jesus dies and was resurrected. *Poof* now we have two types of death, one where people die and are brought back to life and another were people die and are not brought back to life.

simple.

 

[TrustAndObey]

All death is the same. Ok, lets take death from the SDA perspective since I to am a monist when it comes to biblical anthropology.

When one dies what happens? That spark of life which God gave to back to Him and he dies. Because in Him we live and move and have our being.

No, the dead know nothing, the soul is dead. They are in fact at this point separated from God the life giver. This happens to everyone.

Now, what is difference in the first and second death? The resurrection.

The first death there is a resurrection. The second death there is no resurrection.

The cross made the distinction of two types of death, prior to the cross there was only death, not first or second, just death.

Now Jesus dies and was resurrected. *Poof* now we have two types of death, one where people die and are brought back to life and another were people die and are not brought back to life.

simple.

[sign]8.6[/sign]

I couldn't give you many points for originality since you obviously stole the idea straight from the Bible.

But I did give you high scores on form, poise, and dismount!

 

[RC_NewProtestants]

If The Wages Of Sin Is Death,
Did Christ Really Die In Our Place On The Cross?​

those texts are used with out regard for context. But if you look at texts in context about Christ's death you see it is not about the second death.

(1 Cor 15:20 NIV) But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.

(1 Cor 15:21 NIV) For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. (1 Cor 15:22 NIV) For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. (1 Cor 15:23 NIV) But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.
(1 Cor 15:23 NIV) But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.

The firstfruits of those who have died, indicates that He is the example of resurrection to eternal life, the promise for all believers. This is not about the second death because there is no resurrection from the second death.

 

[TrustAndObey]

http://www.uua.org/aboutus/findcongregation/index.php

 

[HolyRevolution]

[sign]8.6[/sign]

I couldn't give you many points for originality since you obviously stole the idea straight from the Bible.

But I did give you high scores on form, poise, and dismount!

I believe Senti has left

 

[Pythons]

No, the eternal seperation from God is what the lake of fire accomplishes and is essentially the 2nd death, since the first death as Christ make clear with Lazarus and Jairus daughter is just a sleep of the grave.

The "Lake of Fire" activity takes place subsequent to the Resurrection of the Flesh and as you said above, equates to "eternal separation from God" therefore invalidating the possibility that Christ 1st) Jumped sequence and participated in the 2nd death prior to the 1st & 2nd) moved from Divinity into what is Biblically described as "eternal separation" AKA, guilty of the unpardonable sin.

The eternal seperation from God is the equivalent of 'everlasting death' versus 'everlasting life', so Christs faced a seperation at the cross that if He had sinned would have been 'everlasting'.

Couldn't have sinned. Jesus is God & God became man without ceasing to be God (Trinity 101). Furthermore, there was never a separation of God where God ceased to exist as God. Alien concept in both Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition.

The first death can become eternal (or 2nd death) if we do not accept Christs gift of eternal life, but it essentially is the first part or the 'death of the grave', where we still can be brought back and have not been seperated eternally from God or essentially cease to exist. When Lazuras died, he did not cease to exist as Christ so vividly showed, and when Jarius daughter died, Christ made clear that she was just 'asleep'. But when the wicked recieve the eternal death of the seperation from God, there will be no coming back or awaking from the sleep of the grave or Hades, it will be the point of no return..

The 1st death is not eternal because 1) the body will be rejoined with the Spirit at the Resurrection & 2) The wicked who've died the first death will face God at the General Judgment in preparation for both the body and the soul to be destroyed in hell thus, eternal separation from God is impossible resultant from the 1st death as it would prevent both the Resurrection of the flesh and participation of the General Judgment and participating in the 2nd death removes the possibility of facing God as the separation is "eternal".

A Dead Girl and a Sick Woman
Luke 8
40Now when Jesus returned, a crowd welcomed him, for they were all expecting him. 41Then a man named Jairus, a ruler of the synagogue, came and fell at Jesus' feet, pleading with him to come to his house 42because his only daughter, a girl of about twelve, was dying.
As Jesus was on his way, the crowds almost crushed him. 43And a woman was there who had been subject to bleeding for twelve years,[d] but no one could heal her. 44She came up behind him and touched the edge of his cloak, and immediately her bleeding stopped.
45"Who touched me?" Jesus asked.
When they all denied it, Peter said, "Master, the people are crowding and pressing against you."
46But Jesus said, "Someone touched me; I know that power has gone out from me."
47Then the woman, seeing that she could not go unnoticed, came trembling and fell at his feet. In the presence of all the people, she told why she had touched him and how she had been instantly healed. 48Then he said to her, "Daughter, your faith has healed you. Go in peace."

49While Jesus was still speaking, someone came from the house of Jairus, the synagogue ruler. "Your daughter is dead," he said. "Don't bother the teacher any more."
50Hearing this, Jesus said to Jairus, "Don't be afraid; just believe, and she will be healed."
51When he arrived at the house of Jairus, he did not let anyone go in with him except Peter, John and James, and the child's father and mother. 52Meanwhile, all the people were wailing and mourning for her. "Stop wailing," Jesus said. "She is not dead but asleep." 53They laughed at him, knowing that she was dead. 54But he took her by the hand and said, "My child, get up!" 55Her spirit returned, and at once she stood up. Then Jesus told them to give her something to eat. 56Her parents were astonished, but he ordered them not to tell anyone what had happened.

"Her Spirit Returned" . The reason Christ describes death as sleep is because without the Spirit the body is sleeping. If the girl was dead in the way you suggest "her spirit" would not be "her spirit".

Christ indeed was seperated from God at the cross, which is essentially the second death. It was the human side of Christ which had to face eternal death, because thats exactly how he could save us from sin. He could resurrect because He had no sin, this is an encouragement to us that if we die in Him we would likewise be resurrected coverered by His rightesouness, but for sinners they face a eternal seperation from God or eternal death at the lake of fire from which there is no resurrection.

Where in Scripture does your theology attain support for God being separated from God. The Divine Nature didn't cease for a second as "The Divine Nature" took on an additional Nature (Human) that was united into the ONE Person of Jesus Christ (Hypostatic Union). To state Christ was separated from God at the Cross is to state Christ wasn't God and this is classic Nestorianism ( a textbook example of it).

 

[HolyRevolution]

Senti please message me about ur beliefs because I would like to understand what you are speaking of.

 

[sentipente]

Senti please message me about ur beliefs because I would like to understand what you are speaking of.

If you have relevant questions please send them by PM.

 

[reddogs]

Here is what I came across..
"Jesus died as a man, not as God.

As a man, this is what Jesus experienced;

“In that thick darkness God’s presence was hidden. He makes darkness His pavilion, and conceals His glory from human eyes. God and His holy angels were beside the cross. The Father was with His Son. Yet His presence was not revealed. Had His glory flashed forth from the cloud, every human beholder would have been destroyed. And in that dreadful hour Christ was not to be comforted with the Father’s presence. He trod the wine press alone, and of the people there was none with Him.”-Ellen G. White, The Desire of Ages, pp. 753, 754.

“The Saviour could not see through the portals of the tomb. Hope did not present to Him His coming forth from the grave a conqueror, or tell Him of the Father’s acceptance of the sacrifice. He feared that sin was so offensive to God that Their separation was to be eternal. Christ felt the anguish which the sinner will feel when mercy shall no longer plead for the guilty race. It was the sense of sin, bringing the Father’s wrath upon Him as man’s substitute, that made the cup He drank so bitter, and broke the heart of the Son of God.” -Ellen White, Desire of Ages, p. 753.

Foxe’s book of Martyrs tells us John Huss was singing songs of praise as he burned at the stake for his faith. We wonder if John Huss, a mere mortal man, could be singing songs of praise as He died at the stake, why couldn’t Jesus sing songs of praise instead of crying out “My God My God why have You forsaken me?”

It is because John Huss died a totally different death than Jesus died. John knew he would be resurrected. He knew he was at peace with the Father. But on the cross Jesus was being treated the way we deserve to be treated so we can be treated the way He deserves to be treated. Think about this, Jesus always called God His Father.

“In my Father’s house are many mansions.”
“I always do those things that please my Father.”
“I and my Father are one.”

But when Jesus was on the cross being treated the way we deserve to be treated He could not call God His Father! He did not know that He would be resurrected. Instead He cried out, “My God! Why have you forsaken me?” This fulfilled the prophecy of Psalms 22 of Jesus dying the second death.

Jesus was not crying out, “Why have you forsaken me till Sunday morning?” You don’t forsake someone when you leave them for the weekend. When I tell my Sabbath School class I will be preaching at another church next Sabbath, none of them ask me why I have forsaken them. They know I will be back the following week. When Jesus cried out, “Why have you forsaken me?” He felt abandoned forever. He felt what the wicked will feel.

Obadiah 1:16 says the wicked will be as though they had never been. Jesus was not facing a mere six-hour pain endurance marathon. A lot of cancer patients would gladly trade their years of battling cancer for six hours on a cross. The physical pain is not what made it the supreme sacrifice. What Jesus was facing was going into total oblivion and being as though He had never existed! While Satan was willing to sacrifice anyone who got in his way of being number 1, Jesus was willing to go into total oblivion if He could just save even one of us.

Hebrews 2:9 tells us Jesus tasted death for everyone. Jesus and Paul both refer to the first death as sleep. Jesus did not save us from that death, as we plainly experience that death ourselves. Paul did not say Jesus tasted sleep for every man. No, He tasted death, the death of the wicked. Yes, He prophesied of His own resurrection, but that was while He still felt the presence of His Father. When Jesus felt the Father turn His back on Him, He felt, as a man, that the promise of the resurrection had left with the Father. Jesus became the God-forsaken God.

Some say, how could Jesus have died the second death while He never lost faith in His Father? Remember Jesus had no sense of self-preservation. The sense of self-preservation belongs to Satan. Jesus had faith, but His faith was not that He would be saved but that you and I would be saved!

Some have a hard time wrapping their minds around this awesome love. Some refuse to believe that Jesus would be willing to die forever to save us. In that case they have made Moses more loving than Jesus. In Exodus 32:32 Moses is willing to be wiped out of eternity in order to save the children of Israel. Do you think Moses loved them more than Jesus loves sinners? Of course not! Only when Moses experienced the self-sacrificing love of God could he express such love. If you don’t believe that Jesus was willing to say good-bye to life forever in order to save us, then you believe that Moses demonstrated more love than Jesus.

Since the Jews were accusing Jesus of blasphemy they could have just stoned Him to death. According to Leviticus 24:16, blasphemers were to be stoned and not crucified. Yet Jesus was crucified. Why? Because Deuteronomy 21:22-23 tells us those who are hung are cursed by God. Someone could plead for mercy and have the hope of salvation, just like John Huss had, even though they were stoned to death. However, being hung was a sign you were cursed by God. Joshua 10 tells the story of five kings who refused to accept Israel’s God and were hung from five trees, telling the world they had rejected God and so there was no salvation for them. It was good-bye to life forever.

Friend, does this help you understand how much Jesus loves you? He could have come down from the cross and returned to heaven where He could wear His kingly Crown instead of the crown of thorns. He could have left the road to Calvary and walked on streets of gold. He could have left the mocking mob and returned to hear angels sing His praise. He could have returned to His mansion. Why didn’t He do just that? Because the thought of going back to heaven without you did not appeal to Jesus. Heaven would not be paradise without you, as far as Jesus is concerned.

There is nothing I would rather be preaching than this message here. It is the everlasting gospel in the three angels’ messages. This kind of love changes everything. It changes how we look at the cross and how we look at sin. Most of all it changes our hearts. The disciples were just a bunch of self-ambitious men until they saw this love displayed on the cross. After they saw this love they were willing to give everything – even their own lives. Revelation 15 tells us there will be a multitude singing the song of Moses and the Lamb. They will be filled with this self-sacrificing love just like Moses and Jesus. They will hate sin more than they hate death and they will love God more than they will love their own lives or self preservation.

Jesus’ love for you goes deeper than the nail scars. He loves you more than He loves life itself. He was willing to go into total oblivion and be as though He had never existed if that is what it took to save you!"

 

[reddogs]

Here is from my friend AMO...'Yes, He did. If He did not, then He did not pay the penalty for sin. The first death is not real death, but what the bible refers to as sleep many times over. All who die it will be raised again, some unto the resurrection of life, others unto the resurrection of damnation. The sinner who truly accepts Christ's sacrifice for them, chooses the second death in Christ in this life, and truly desires not to be what they are any more but new creatures in Christ Jesus. They would rather die than remain sinners. They are saved in Christ Jesus by entering the experience of the cross with Him. They pick up their crosses and follow their Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

To the contrary, the wicked who will die the second death, refused to do the same. Either by rejecting the truth, or refusing to let go of cherished sin, they choose this life of sin over a life of purity in Christ. Refusing to pick up their crosses and follow Jesus in this life, they are subject to the second death at the second resurrection. The sinner shall surely die, either by their own choice in this life by following Christ, or in the lake of fire outside of Him alone who can save. May God grant us all the love of Him through His precious Son above the pride and lusts of this present life unto salvation.

Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God....'

And here is a good explanation on the second death..
'The phrase "second death" is found four times in the book of Revelation, and nowhere else (Rev. 2:11; 20:6, 14; 21:8). But these few verses reveal several important things.
First, it is God's instrument in the eradication of sin, sinners, Satan, and death from the universe (Rev. 20:10, 14; 21:8). The second death is fundamentally different from natural death. Sin and death entered into the world together, and they will be extinguished from it together. The second death is the final penalty for sin, the total and eternal elimination of evil powers and sin in God's creation.
Second, the second death is a process that brings sinful life to an end (Rev. 20:10, 14). Sinners will be completely aware of the fact that they are going through that which will separate them from God forever. This process culminates in the inevitable and inescapable cessation of the life of unrepentant sinners. It stops its work only when nothing is left of sinners and sin.
Third, the second death is characterized by pain. It harms or hurts those who experience it (Rev. 2:11). This same verb is used in the New Testament to describe physical (Luke 10:19) and spiritual (Col. 3:25) harm. In Revelation it is a synonym for torment (cf. Rev. 9:4, 5; 20:10). Those who are under the full control of evil are tormented by it (cf. Matt. 8:29). Therefore, one could suggest that the second death is experienced as both physical and spiritual anguish or agony—indescribable pain.
Finally, the second death is legally right. This death has no power or authority over the righteous (Rev. 20:6). But it does have a claim against the wicked. It isn't an expression of divine arbitrariness, but an expression of a legal penalty or retribution (cf. Col. 3:25). It serves to reveal the justice of God's judgments (cf. Rev. 19:1-3).' Surviving the Second Death | Biblical Research Institute

 

[BobRyan]

I had never heard of this from any Adventist pulpit or preacher, but some people say Christ died the second death because the second death (the one after the 1000 years) is the penalty for sin...

Agreed -- the second death.

Col 2:16 "our certificate of debt" nailed to the cross

 

[Tayla]

Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

The 1,000 years started in 33 AD and ended in 1033 AD. The second death is eternal damnation.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

The 1,000 years started in 33 AD and ended in 1033 AD. The second death is eternal damnation.

Can you show us how you derived that from the Bible?