Did Adam and Eve have a belly button?

[AV1611VET]

Most surely He does. And He provides His Word like manna to be eaten like spiritual food, to nourish us and feed us.

Where in the Bible is it written that there was man before God created Adam?

WOW, Miss Brinny! You go, girl!

 

[Jazer]

Where in the Bible is it written that there was man before God created Adam?

In Gen ch 1 because we do not read about Adam until Gen 2. 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

In Gen 2:4 we read: "These are the generations" Then in Gen 5:1 "This is the book of the generations of Adam." So the generations are made very clear in the Bible, just exactly who is decended from Adam. The DNA confirms what the Bible tells us. Abraham's Chromosomes?

2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife:

I am sure you have a different understanding. But clearly we are told here that Adam has a mother and a father. That he was to leave his mother and father and cleave onto his wife.

We now have a man and a women, a husband and a wife for the first time. Before we only had a male and a female. As the country music people love to talk about how there is a difference between a male and a man. A female and a women.

Then we see: Genesis 3:20 "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living." What does this mean "all living"? This is the sixth time we see this word "living" in the Bible. The word "all" is not in the original Hebrew, the translaters added the word "all" in this passage.

4:14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.

Just who was it that Cain was worried about killing him if there were not other people alive on the earth at that time?

4:16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

We are told that Cain went to the land of Nod and there he found a wife. He built a city. A married man does not build a city unless there are people to live in the city.

So these are the main scriptures that talk about people in the earth before Adam and Eve. But there is also the story where Jesus called the people who were not of the House of Israel: "DOGS". These are the people who are not a part of the generations or the descendants of Adam and Eve.

21Then Jesus went from there, and departed into the regions of Tyre and Sidon.

22And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same regions, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, you son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a demon.

23But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she cries after us.

24But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

25Then came she and worshiped him, saying, Lord, help me.

26But he answered and said, It is not right to take the children's bread, and cast it to dogs.

27And she said, True, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.

28Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is your faith: be it unto you even as you will. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.

If you remember we are adopted into the family of God. We are not a natural branch of the tree. The Hebrews and the Arabs are the natural children of Abraham.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

OK, so if scars are the result of the sin nature, and Jesus was without sin, did Jesus have a belly button?

Great question, since He was born of the Holy Spirit thru a virgin

 

[No Time]

Most surely He does. And He provides His Word like manna to be eaten like spiritual food, to nourish us and feed us.

Where in the Bible is it written that there was man before God created Adam?

So what do you think fossils are brinny? were they there before Adam or after? and how long were they there?

May I also say what a wonderful dreamy pink world you must live in brinny, if you can manage to get to the end without thinking and continue dreaming then life will have passed you by completely which I suppose is what you intend doing, good luck with that.

 

[brinny]

In Gen ch 1 because we do not read about Adam until Gen 2. 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

In Gen 2:4 we read: "These are the generations" Then in Gen 5:1 "This is the book of the generations of Adam." So the generations are made very clear in the Bible, just exactly who is decended from Adam. The DNA confirms what the Bible tells us. Abraham's Chromosomes?

2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife:

I am sure you have a different understanding. But clearly we are told here that Adam has a mother and a father. That he was to leave his mother and father and cleave onto his wife.

We now have a man and a women, a husband and a wife for the first time. Before we only had a male and a female. As the country music people love to talk about how there is a difference between a male and a man. A female and a women.

Then we see: Genesis 3:20 "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living." What does this mean "all living"? This is the sixth time we see this word "living" in the Bible. The word "all" is not in the original Hebrew, the translaters added the word "all" in this passage.

4:14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.

Just who was it that Cain was worried about killing him if there were not other people alive on the earth at that time?

4:16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

We are told that Cain went to the land of Nod and there he found a wife. He built a city. A married man does not build a city unless there are people to live in the city.

So these are the main scriptures that talk about people in the earth before Adam and Eve. But there is also the story where Jesus called the people who were not of the House of Israel: "DOGS". These are the people who are not a part of the generations or the descendants of Adam and Eve.

21Then Jesus went from there, and departed into the regions of Tyre and Sidon.

22And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same regions, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, you son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a demon.

23But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she cries after us.

24But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

25Then came she and worshiped him, saying, Lord, help me.

26But he answered and said, It is not right to take the children's bread, and cast it to dogs.

27And she said, True, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.

28Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is your faith: be it unto you even as you will. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.

If you remember we are adopted into the family of God. We are not a natural branch of the tree. The Hebrews and the Arabs are the natural children of Abraham.

My dear brother, i agree. We read those verses very differently. Jesus Christ is called the "second Adam", was He not? Why was that?

Israel is God's beloved.

 

[Jazer]

My dear brother, i agree. We read those verses very differently.

You asked to see the verses so I showed them to you.
If you read and understand them different than me that is fine.
As long as your reading and understanding them.

Jesus Christ is called the "second Adam", was He not? Why was that?

That means you have to be born again of the Spirit of God.
The natural man apart from God can not be saved.
Your in the Greek now the word for man is: Anthropos.

15:45 And so it is written,
The first man(Anthropos) Adam was made * a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
15:47 The first man(Anthropos) is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

What do you think that means to borne the image of the earthy?

Anthropos (Άνθρωπο&#962 Greek.

1. a human being, whether male or female
1. generically, to include all human individuals
2. to distinguish man from beings of a different order
1. of animals and plants
2. of from God and Christ
3. of the angels
3. with the added notion of weakness, by which man is led into a mistake or prompted to sin
4. with the adjunct notion of contempt or disdainful pity
5. with reference to two fold nature of man, body and soul
6. with reference to the two fold nature of man, the corrupt and the truly Christian man, conformed to the nature of God
7. with reference to sex, a male
2. indefinitely, someone, a man, one
3. in the plural, people
4. joined with other words, merchantman

Israel is God's beloved.

Israel the man or Israel the nation?

 

[brinny]

You asked to see the verses so I showed them to you.



That means you have to be born again of the Spirit of God. The natural man apart from God can not be saved. Your in the Greek now the word for man is: Anthropos.

15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made * a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Anthropos (Άνθρωπο&#962 Greek.

1. a human being, whether male or female
1. generically, to include all human individuals
2. to distinguish man from beings of a different order
1. of animals and plants
2. of from God and Christ
3. of the angels
3. with the added notion of weakness, by which man is led into a mistake or prompted to sin
4. with the adjunct notion of contempt or disdainful pity
5. with reference to two fold nature of man, body and soul
6. with reference to the two fold nature of man, the corrupt and the truly Christian man, conformed to the nature of God
7. with reference to sex, a male
2. indefinitely, someone, a man, one
3. in the plural, people
4. joined with other words, merchantman

Israel the man or Israel the nation?

Read your bible verses again. Adam was the first man.

Jacob, who wrestled with God, was then re-named Israel. His descendants.

 

[Jazer]

Read your bible verses again. Adam was the first man.

Do you men the verse Paul wrote in the NT? Adam lived 6,000 years ago. If you believe Adam was the first man then how do you explain all the human remains we find that Science tells us are older then 6,000 years? I am not saying they are right or wrong. But you seem to be saying that Science is wrong. For me I would rather be of the opinion or position that there is no conflict between Science and Religion. Or between Science and the Bible. That way our young people can study science in science class. They can study the Bible in sunday school and not have to worry about conflict or contradiction. There is no problem and nothing to worry or be concerned about.

There are men of science that some where along they way they thought there was a conflict. But then they realized that there is no problem. They accept the Bible and they accept Science. Would you want to go to a doctor that rejects science?

 

[Jazer]

OK, so if scars are the result of the sin nature, and Jesus was without sin, did Jesus have a belly button?

His scars are because of OUR sin. They say He will always carry those scars to show the price that He paid for His Bride.

 

[Skaloop]

His scars are because of OUR sin. They say He will always carry those scars to show the price that He paid for His Bride.

His belly button indicates his sacrifice?

 

[Jazer]

One that is involved in it, though, is FOXP2.

FOXP2 orthologs have also been identified in all mammals for which complete genome data are available.
In humans, mutations of FOXP2 cause a severe speech and language disorder. Wiki


Swing and a miss, nice try though.

 

[Skaloop]

FOXP2 orthologs have also been identified in all mammals for which complete genome data are available.
In humans, mutations of FOXP2 cause a severe speech and language disorder. Wiki


Swing and a miss, nice try though.

For starters, I clearly stated that it's just one of many genetic bits behind human language. Second, you should have read the wiki article you plagiarized a bit more thoroughly; the FOXP2 gene in other mammals is similar, not identical, to the FOXP2 gene in humans. Furthermore, there is one substitution on FOXP2 that is unique to humans.

Sorry, balk called on the pitch.

 

[AV1611VET]

Adam lived 6,000 years ago. If you believe Adam was the first man then how do you explain all the human remains we find that Science tells us are older then 6,000 years?

All this dating does is date the chemicals (or elements), it does not give us a timeframe for when a person lived.

If a shrewdness of scientists dug up my brother's bones and dated those bones as 40,000 years old, I wouldn't bat an eye; but if a shrewdness of scientists dug up my brother's bones and dated him as 40,000 years old, I'd bat both my eyes twice.

 

[Jazer]

the wiki article you plagiarized

I did some research on the mis information you gave me and you call that "plagiarized"? Perhaps you do not know that to quote a source and to give a referance to that quote is NOT Plagiarized.

Plagiarism is defined in dictionaries as the "wrongful appropriation," "close imitation," or "purloining and publication" of another author's "language, thoughts, ideas, or expressions," and the representation of them as one's own original work, but the notion remains problematic with nebulous boundaries. Wiki

Perhaps what you mean is that DNA is the Language of God.

 

[Jazer]

All this dating does is date the chemicals (or elements), it does not give us a timeframe for when a person lived.

I have no way of knowing how old anything is. Even when I crunch the numbers myself I have to go by the math other people give me. But do you really believe the world we live in is only 6,000 years of age?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Read your bible verses again. Adam was the first man.

Jacob, who wrestled with God, was then re-named Israel. His descendants.

That is they they believe the Apostle Paul's written words

NKJV) 1 Corinthians 15:22 For just as in the Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all shall be being made alive.

45 And so it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being.
The last Adam [became] a life-giving spirit.
46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual.
47 The first man [was] of the earth, [made] of dust; the second Man [is] the Lord from heaven.
48 As [was] the [man] of dust, so also [are] those [who are made] of dust; and as [is] the heavenly [Man,] so also [are] those [who are] heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the [man] of dust, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly [Man.]

 

[Skaloop]

I did some research on the mis information you gave me and you call that "plagiarized"? Perhaps you do not know that to quote a source and to give a referance to that quote is NOT Plagiarized.

Plagiarism is defined in dictionaries as the "wrongful appropriation," "close imitation," or "purloining and publication" of another author's "language, thoughts, ideas, or expressions," and the representation of them as one's own original work,but the notion remains problematic with nebulous boundaries. Wiki

Perhaps what you mean is that DNA is the Language of God.

OK, sorry, I missed the Wiki part at the end. So forget the plagiarism part. Can you address the substance of my post? What misinformation did I give? FOXP2 has been shown to be one of many genes involved in human language ability. Portions of FOXP2 are unique to humans. Where is the "mis" in this information?

 

[brinny]

Originally Posted by brinny
Read your bible verses again. Adam was the first man.

Jacob, who wrestled with God, was then re-named Israel. His descendants.

That is they they believe the Apostle Paul's written words

NKJV) 1 Corinthians 15:22 For just as in the Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all shall be being made alive.

45 And so it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being.
The last Adam [became] a life-giving spirit.
46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual.
47 The first man [was] of the earth, [made] of dust; the second Man [is] the Lord from heaven.
48 As [was] the [man] of dust, so also [are] those [who are made] of dust; and as [is] the heavenly [Man,] so also [are] those [who are] heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the [man] of dust, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly [Man.]

Whoa! Awesome verses!

 

[AV1611VET]

But do you really believe the world we live in is only 6,000 years of age?

No -- I believe this earth is 4.57 billion years old, but only has been in existence for 6000.

Same for the universe.

I believe the universe has only been around for 6000 years, but has things in it that are much older -- like the earth.

 

[SkyWriting]

Then you know that you are proposing a false history embedded into the Earth.

I have two theories on that. God's time is not the same as our time.
That's fairly logical as well as scriptural.

The second is that time doesn't exist until mass exists. So time during a six day creation event would be effected by the creation of mass.

But neither of them "False". Just misunderstood. Man not understanding time as God does? Again, fairly easy to believe.