Did Adam and Eve have a belly button?

[sandwiches]

Yet all that I have learn'd (hugh toyles now past)
By long experience, and in famous schooles,
Is but to know my ignorance at last.
Who think themselves most wise are greatest fools.

• William Alexander, Recreations with the Muses (1637), p. 7

And yet we still know more now and more accurately than ever before.

 

[sandwiches]

Just report on what you know.

Heed your own advice, sport.

 

[Jazer]

For what? When will this happen? From where? What kind of "tribulation" and "nuclear cleansing" are you talking about? Who will do this? Why? How?

Yes, a nuclear cleansing. Over in Jerusalam between Isreal and the Arab nations. Although you would be surprised with Ted Turner and now Bill Gates and even Warren Buffet think that the worlds poplulation is to high and the numbers need to be brought down. Have you heard of the Georgia guidestone? This will take place at the end of the church age in about 18 years. God will quit restaining the atheists and allow them to destroy the world. Actually the world will be cleansed by fire. Then God will destroy them that destory the world.

Rev 11 18 "The nations were angry; and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your saints and those who reverence your name, both small and great--and for destroying those who destroy the earth."

 

[sandwiches]

Yes, a nuclear cleansing. Over in Jerusalam between Isreal and the Arab nations. Although you would be surprised with Ted Turner and now Bill Gates and even Warren Buffet think that the worlds poplulation is to high and the numbers need to be brought down. Have you heard of the Georgia guidestone? This will take place at the end of the church age in about 18 years. God will quit restaining the atheists and allow them to destroy the world. Actually the world will be cleansed by fire. Then God will destroy them that destory the world.

I know as an atheist I am just itching to destroy the world.... /s

Now, seriously, how do you know that the atheists will detroy the world over Israel and the Arab nations?

And what does the Georgia guidestone have to do with any of this?

 

[Jazer]

And what does the Georgia guidestone have to do with any of this?

The only program I know of with Ted Turner and Bill Gates is the vaccine program. There is a video on youtube where Bill Gates said that the program will eliminate 10 to 12% of the population. What? Eliminate? I thought the purpose of a vaccine was to keep people alive. China brags about having reduced the population by 600 million people.

I remember when there were 3 billion people, now there are 7 billion people and they were able to get rid of maybe 1 billion. Through abortion, family planning and whatever else they use to try and "control" the population.

Now, seriously, how do you know that the atheists will detroy the world over Israel and the Arab nations?

It is in the Bible, but mostly I know because that is what everyone teaches. Esp the televangelists on TV. Pat Robertson, Trinity Broadcasting and so on.

 

[Split Rock]

The only program I know of with Ted Turner and Bill Gates is the vaccine program. There is a video on youtube where Bill Gates said that the program will eliminate 10 to 12% of the population. .

Can you provide a link to this video? I would love to see it.

 

[sandwiches]

The only program I know of with Ted Turner and Bill Gates is the vaccine program. There is a video on youtube where Bill Gates said that the program will eliminate 10 to 12% of the population. What? Eliminate? I thought the purpose of a vaccine was to keep people alive. China brags about having reduced the population by 600 million people.

I remember when there were 3 billion people, now there are 7 billion people and they were able to get rid of maybe 1 billion. Through abortion, family planning and whatever else they use to try and "control" the population.

Did you even read what I typed?

Let me ask you again:
What does the Georgia guidestone have to do with any of this?
I don't care about Bill Gates, China, and whatever...
What does the Georgia guidestone have to do with any of this?

It is in the Bible, but mostly I know because that is what everyone teaches. Esp the televangelists on TV. Pat Robertson, Trinity Broadcasting and so on.

Wait... are you serious? Now, I'm starting to think you're trolling. You're saying that you believe that atheists will the destroy the world because someone said? Did you ever stop to ask how they know? Why they claim this?

 

[Loudmouth]

Have you heard of the Georgia guidestone? This will take place at the end of the church age in about 18 years. God will quit restaining the atheists and allow them to destroy the world. Actually the world will be cleansed by fire. Then God will destroy them that destory the world.

Barney Frank said it best:

"When you ask me that question, I'm going to revert to my ethnic heritage and ask you a question: On what planet do you spend most of your time? It is a tribute to the First Amendment that this kind of vile, contemptible nonsense is so freely propagated.... Trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table. I have no interest in doing it."

 

[SkyWriting]

No you have not backed up your claim. Next question.

Again, same problem.

 

[SkyWriting]

There are always uncertianties associated with any numerical determination/ measurement. That is life. The number you refered to was probably thrown out because the uncertainty or "error" was exceedingly high... not because it was not "the date they were looking for." That is the way creationists work, so I guess it is not surprising that you would think we do it the same way.

I'm just reading what it says pal. I think I was being kind.

"When 4Q258 (#23) was tested at Tucson its result was so anomalous (129-255 or 303-318 CE) that the laboratory was asked to retest another sample from the same document. The second test (#20) yielded a result (50 BCE-130 CE) that was deemed more satisfactory."

 

[SkyWriting]

You just don't listen. Keep your mind closed tight, and keep repeating the mantra: "Science has nothing to say bout the past that cannot be recreated and retested." Then if you ever are a candidate to jury a murder trial, make sure to tell that to the judge, so you can get off of doing jury duty.

I've been on 2 juries. I'll just quote the facts to the judge:

"The reproducibility of an experimental result is a fundamental assumption in science. "
“Non-reproducible single occurrences are of no significance to science.”
Reproducible Science

Repeatable, Reproducible, and Useful


Why Current Publication Practices May Distort Science




I'm sorry.
You'll find no support for your stand other than blogs and chat sites.

 

[dad]

Have you heard of the Georgia guidestone? This will take place at the end of the church age in about 18 years. God will quit restaining the atheists and allow them to destroy the world.

Never heard of it. Should we get white blankets, and head to the rooftops in 18 years then?

 

[dad]

Those of us in the real world care, dad. Science is useful in the real world... and, as you continue to demonstrate here, your Split/Merge nonsense Dadology is NOT.

Nothing about your real world includes the pre flood time. That is after all the time that this belly button issue is all about.

The real world is not what you decide on. That would be your opinion, which, like belly buttons, everyone has.

 

[Jazer]

Never heard of it. Should we get white blankets, and head to the rooftops in 18 years then?

If your saved. If you plan on getting left behind I would get away from the cities and off the power grids.

 

[dad]

If your saved. If you plan on getting left behind I would get away from the cities and off the power grids.

So the saved have precisely 18 years. Not sure who has duped you...but get a grip man, while there is time.

 

[Loudmouth]

I've been on 2 juries. I'll just quote the facts to the judge:

"The reproducibility of an experimental result is a fundamental assumption in science. "
“Non-reproducible single occurrences are of no significance to science.”

Then let's use forensic science and the courtroom as our model.

There is a murder. This is a non-reproducible single occurrence. However, the courtroom does allow forensic evidence to be presented in order to reconstruct that non-reproducible single occurrence. Why? Because forensic evidence IS REPEATABLE. In fact, it is required to be repeatable. For example, any biological samples have to be made available to the defense so that they can run their own DNA fingerprint analysis.

So obviously, you have something seriously wrong with your understanding of how science works. You are confusing the experiment with the hypothesis. The results of EXPERIMENTS need to be repeatable, and it is the experiments that are used to reconstruct the non-reproducible single occurrence. The very fact that forensic evidence is allowed in a court of law falsifies your entire argument.

 

[SkyWriting]

Then let's use forensic science and the courtroom as our model.

There is a murder. This is a non-reproducible single occurrence. However, the courtroom does allow forensic evidence to be presented in order to reconstruct that non-reproducible single occurrence. Why? Because forensic evidence IS REPEATABLE. In fact, it is required to be repeatable. For example, any biological samples have to be made available to the defense so that they can run their own DNA fingerprint analysis.

So obviously, you have something seriously wrong with your understanding of how science works. You are confusing the experiment with the hypothesis. The results of EXPERIMENTS need to be repeatable, and it is the experiments that are used to reconstruct the non-reproducible single occurrence. The very fact that forensic evidence is allowed in a court of law falsifies your entire argument.

Not in the least. Evidence is allowed and is considered. There is always, in every case, expert scientific testimony as to why the evidence is invalid or should be discarded. Science only illuminates. It doesn't prove anything. Forensic evidence has the same problems as eyewitness testimony. The data is after the fact and subject to interpretation.

If you watch your CSI TV shows more carefully, they'll even mention that now and then.

There is no such thing as proof in science.
Common misconceptions about science

 

[Exiledoomsayer]

I bet next you'll be telling us about how eyewithnessess are the most reliable form of evidence.

 

[Nostromo]

Yes, a nuclear cleansing. Over in Jerusalam between Isreal and the Arab nations. Although you would be surprised with Ted Turner and now Bill Gates and even Warren Buffet think that the worlds poplulation is to high and the numbers need to be brought down. Have you heard of the Georgia guidestone? This will take place at the end of the church age in about 18 years. God will quit restaining the atheists and allow them to destroy the world. Actually the world will be cleansed by fire. Then God will destroy them that destory the world.

Would you be willing to bet everything you own on it?

 

[Jazer]

So the saved have precisely 18 years. Not sure who has duped you...but get a grip man, while there is time.

18 years marks the 2000 year anniversary of the Christian Church. Although I have heard that some people believe the church began when Jesus was born in 4 bc. That would have been the year 1996. I go by the first pentecost in the year 20ad. I go by the Friday April 13, 2029 date that we get from NASA. Also the Sunday April 13 2036 with the 1 in 45000 using standard dynamical models. So with odds of 1 in 45000 perhaps your justified in being a polyanna. One way or the other you will hear a lot more about this as the day comes near so you can say you heard it first here.

As far as the tribulation is concerned. It may or may not begin in or around the year 2030. But one thing is for sure, someone somewhere is going to have a disaster between now and then and it would be a very good idea for them to "get a grip" and prepare themselves. New Orleans needed to be prepared. On 911 NY needed to be prepared for their disaster. In Haiti they needed to be prepared for 1000 fires and the looting after the earthquake. Japan and Thailand needed to be prepared.

Perhaps you will sail on by and never have a problem. But even as a boy scout we were told to be prepared. Because in the next 18 years someone somewhere is going to deal with disaster and they need to be ready. But if you want to live in a Polyanna world, go right ahead and do just that.