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The Israelites were only allowed to pick up what they could eat each day. They weren’t allowed to gather more than what they could eat in a single day except on Friday when they were told to gather a double portion.
Yes, agreed. They were gathering two days worth of food on the Friday so they could eat on the Sabbath. Eating on the Sabbath is not a sin, just like its not a sin to pick an apple off a tree to eat or pick the heads of grain to eat, which is much different than gathering a full days' worth of food or harvesting.
It depends on what Sabbath. If it was the 15th, the firstday of unleavened bread, None was to eaten or harvested until The first ripe sheaf had been brought to the priest first. Then eating and harvest could begin.
The reference to the disciples eating was on the weekly Sabbath commandment, not the annual sabbath(s) feast days.
Luke 6:1 And it came to pass on the second sabbath after the first, that he went through the corn fields; and his disciples plucked the ears of corn, and did eat, rubbing them in their hands.
Second Sabbath of the month, this is not about the annual sabbath(s) feast days, there is no picking the heads of grain and eating on the sabbath(s) feast day ordinances, this is not about making sacrifices or offerings, this is the disciples eating on the Sabbath day, which is not a sin.
They were not harvesting grains or were they making any grain offerings, they were hungry and eating the heads of the grain on the Sabbath, while walking with Jesus, which is not a sin.
What I get from the context of Jesus’ words is that what they were doing was against the commandment. Notice how His reply is to mention David entering the temple and eating the consecrated bread which He specifically points out that it was not lawful for him to eat”.Jesus doesn’t quote scripture to support that what His disciples were doing was lawful, instead He quotes scripture about how what David did was unlawful but God showed mercy on him and those who were accompanying him because they were hungry. Furthermore the usage of His statement “you would not have condemned the innocent. For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath” seems to be an indication that because He is Lord over the Sabbath He is able to show compassion and pardon them.
Each week, sabbath they brought the ripened grain until pentecost. The grain was ripe enough to eat, but still standing in the fields. Nobody was to eat until it was first brought to the priests in the temple. You can ignore and deny it was the harvest season all you want.
what you say corresponds to this...............
Yes but my point is, I don’t see Jesus defending their innocence, I see Him acknowledging their guilt and urging the Pharisees to show some compassion.
Pentecost wasn't each week, it is one of the annual festivals.
Thats not what the scripture says the disciples were doing, they were eating the grain because they were hungry Matt 12:1 not gathering, harvesting or making sin offerings. You’re reading into the scripture.
There was nothing to defend. Jesus is not bending the rules for His disciples that makes Him a hypocrite. There’s no sin in eating on the Sabbath, these were the Pharisees laws not the law of God.
You miss the whole point of the passage. So please explain why Jesus’ reply was to mention David and the priests who were guilty of breaking God’s commandments when they were hungry.
Adam in Hebrew. Same difference. He did not say the Sabbath was made for JEWS. So Yeshua was speaking regarding creation. Adam was made on the 6th day and Shabbat on the 7th.
Why would I when you try and take the mile? You are wrong...enough said.
Not really, I don't think I am the one missing the point.
First of all, please quote the scripture that says it is against the commandment of God to eat on the Sabbath. The law being referred to is the law of the Pharisees, they added many laws to God's commandment and Jesus was correcting them, not bending the rules.
Lets quote the scripture...
It's not the commandment of God that was broken. The Pharisees accused Jesus of breaking the Sabbath, they accused Jesus that God was not His Father, they accused His disciples of breaking the Sabbath, it seems like you have sided with the Pharisees over the very Words of Jesus.
No, saying Jesus bended the rules for His disciples is making Jesus a hypocrite because Jesus condemned the Pharisees for keeping their rules over the commandments of God. Matthew 15:3-9 so allowing His disciples to bend the rules is in essence making Jesus a hypocrite which is one of the saddest teachings by some churches, they would rather make Jesus out to be a hypocrite or sinner than keep one of His commandments. This makes the apostles hypocrites as they teach over and over to keep the commandments of God and the Sabbath is a commandment of God, that they kept every Sabbath Acts 13:42, Acts 13:44, Acts 18:4 and says what matters is keeping the commandments of God 1 Cor 7:19.
Quote where Jesus corrected them. He doesn’t say this was not what was commanded. The case He made against them was that both David and the priests broke God’s commandments because they were hungry and the Pharisees didn’t condemn their actions. The Pharisees held both David and the Levitican priests in high regard and didn’t refer to them as unrighteous or ungodly because of this transgression. Yet they condemned the actions of Jesus’ disciples as an offense against Jesus Himself, because they were His followers and their actions reflect on Him personally. Jesus didn’t say that David and the priest’s actions were lawful, He said they were unlawful.
They were not harvesting wheat, please show where the disciples were harvesting wheat. They were picking the heads of grain and eating them while walking with Jesus because they were hungry Matthew 12:1 and please show where that is breaking the commandment of God to eat on the Sabbath? It would be hypocritical for the disciples to tell us to keep the commandments of God, but not keep them themselves and for Jesus to condemn people for not keeping the commandments of God but yet bend the rules for His disciples. Sorry this is what you are getting from these scriptures, it’s wrong it is recording the side of the Pharisees, not what was happening as Jesus explains. Jesus would know how to properly keep the Sabbath which is why He was contrasting priest who are doing God’s work with David eating on the Sabbath, neither are sins. The Sabbath is made to be a blessing for mankind Isaiah 58:13 Mark 2:27 and eating on the Sabbath when hungry is not breaking any of the commandments of God.
