DeTrumpify yourself app

[probinson]

The US navy hasn't been welcome in NZ waters since the 1980's when we went nuclear free.

That's not true. From ChatGPT:

Yes, U.S. Navy ships can visit New Zealand's waters, but such visits are contingent upon compliance with New Zealand's nuclear-free legislation.​

Nuclear-Free Policy and U.S. Navy Access​

New Zealand enacted a nuclear-free policy in 1984, prohibiting the entry of ships that are either nuclear-armed or nuclear-powered into its ports. This policy led to a suspension of the ANZUS defense treaty between the United States and New Zealand, as the U.S. Navy does not officially confirm or deny whether its ships carry nuclear weapons or are nuclear-powered. Consequently, U.S. Navy vessels were effectively barred from New Zealand ports for several decades .The Beehive+1The Australian+1The Washington Times+3Wikipedia+3Wikipedia+3​

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Recent Developments​

In 2016, the relationship between the two nations began to thaw. New Zealand invited the USS Sampson, an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer, to participate in the Royal New Zealand Navy’s 75th anniversary International Naval Review.Prime Minister John Key granted approval for the visit after confirming that the USS Sampson was neither nuclear-armed nor nuclear-powered, aligning with New Zealand's legal requirements .TimeAP News+2The Beehive+2Time+2​

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Further diplomatic engagement occurred in 2021 when U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta visited New Zealand, marking the first visit by a Pentagon chief in nearly three decades. During this visit, the U.S. lifted its ban on New Zealand naval ship visits, signaling a renewed commitment to stronger defense ties, while New Zealand reaffirmed its anti-nuclear stance .BBC News​

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Current Status​

As of now, the policy remains that U.S. Navy ships may visit New Zealand ports, provided they do not carry nuclear weapons or are nuclear-powered. Any prospective visit would require prior approval from the New Zealand government, ensuring compliance with the nation's nuclear-free laws.Time​

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In summary, while U.S. Navy ships are permitted in New Zealand's waters, adherence to New Zealand's nuclear-free legislation is a prerequisite for such visits.​

 

[Bradskii]

So no, it doesn't seem that sweat shops are concerning to some.

And..?

Again, now you're talking about personal convictions. It sure seems like you're intentionally conflating one's personal convictions with the virtue signaling of letting everyone know what you're doing and why. Do you understand how those things are different? Because it sure doesn't seem like it.

It's kinda helpful in boycotting a product by letting everyone else know what's going on. If no-one says anything about what they are doing, how in heaven's name does anyone know there's a boycott going on? You need people to think 'Hey, that's a good idea. I can have me some of that'.

Again, it seems like you think it's OK to have that slogan on your t shirt but it's virtue signalling to wear it out and have everyone know what your opinion is. That's just...weird.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

If this was just a personal grudge then you'd have a point. It isn't. So you don't.

So the purpose of this app mentioned by the OP isn't a personal grudge...odd, it has his picture in the app and is named Detrumpify....sounds like a personal grudge.

 

[probinson]

It seems that Tesla sales are massively down and that the Tesla board are looking to kick out Elon. Or did I imagine that?

CNN — ​

Tesla’s chair Robyn Denholm has rejected a Wall Street Journal report that the company’s board has begun a search process for a new CEO to replace Elon Musk.​

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The Journal reported Wednesday that Tesla’s board contacted executive placement firms in March to look for Musk’s replacement, citing multiple unnamed sources.​

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Denholm said in a post on Tesla’s official X account that the claim was “absolutely false,” and the board is “highly confident in his ability to continue executing on the exciting growth plan ahead.”​

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https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/30/business/tesla-board-elon-musk-ceo-search/index.html

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[Bradskii]

Yes, the concept of a boycott is to tell everyone what you're doing. I dunno. I find that silly. But I know that people seek validation in many ways. I suppose pretending like they're "doing something" in solidarity over a boycott is one way people achieve that.

Being part of a boycott isn't pretending. You are actually participating. Your individual effort, on its own, is meaningless. But the fact that you are doing it as part of a larger group is what gives it some real meaning. Whether you agree with it or not is neither here nor there.

 

[Bradskii]

So the purpose of this app mentioned by the OP isn't a personal grudge...odd, it has his picture in the app and is named Detrumpify....sounds like a personal grudge.

You were talking about yourself having a personal grudge against a government. It's nothing like that. In fact...completely different.

 

[probinson]

And..?

I have no idea. You brought up sweat shops, for some reason, so I simply pointed out that this current endeavor isn't concerned with sweat shops.

It's kinda helpful in boycotting a product by letting everyone else know what's going on. If no-one says anything about what they are doing, how in heaven's name does anyone know there's a boycott going on? You need people to think 'Hey, that's a good idea. I can have me some of that'.

Oh no! However will I know if it's OK to buy products unless someone tells me!

I mean, do people actually think this way? Talk about weird...

Again, it seems like you think it's OK to have that slogan on your t shirt but it's virtue signalling to wear it out and have everyone know what your opinion is. That's just...weird.

I am at a loss as to how you think there is any comparison between slogans on T-shirts and an organized boycott.

 

[stevil]

CNN — ​

Tesla’s chair Robyn Denholm has rejected a Wall Street Journal report that the company’s board has begun a search process for a new CEO to replace Elon Musk.​

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The Journal reported Wednesday that Tesla’s board contacted executive placement firms in March to look for Musk’s replacement, citing multiple unnamed sources.​

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Denholm said in a post on Tesla’s official X account that the claim was “absolutely false,” and the board is “highly confident in his ability to continue executing on the exciting growth plan ahead.”​

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https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/30/business/tesla-board-elon-musk-ceo-search/index.html

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There you go then Elon's other job is safe even though the Tesla company are having some significant financial difficulties due to the boycott.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

How wrong can you be...

Ah yes...it's called "DeTrumpify" and shows an unflattering image of him when scanning a bar code, but it has nothing to do with people having a personal grudge against Trump.

C'mon, you know this is ridiculous right? lol.

If someone created an app called "NObama", and every time they scanned a product, it showed an unflattering pic of him with information about which companies donated to the Obama campaign with the intent of getting people to avoid purchasing them, everyone would rightfully identify it as a personal grudge.

 

[probinson]

Being part of a boycott isn't pretending.

Sure it is. In fact, you agree in your next statement.

You are actually participating. Your individual effort, on its own, is meaningless.

Indeed. You are participating in something meaningless. "Doing something".

But the fact that you are doing it as part of a larger group is what gives it some real meaning. Whether you agree with it or not is neither here nor there.

Yes, feeling a part of something is a powerful force for many people. The vast majority of people are followers. Those people need someone else to tell them what to do, how to think, what to buy, etc. Whether or not that's "meaningful" is up for debate.

 

[stevil]

I am at a loss as to how you think there is any comparison between slogans on T-shirts and an organized boycott.

Boycotts are much more effective. Buy sloganned t-shirts is just giving your money to the person that makes the t-shirts.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Being part of a boycott isn't pretending. You are actually participating. Your individual effort, on its own, is meaningless. But the fact that you are doing it as part of a larger group is what gives it some real meaning. Whether you agree with it or not is neither here nor there.

Yes, by making zero sacrifices and not personally inconveniencing yourself by any measurable degree.

As I mentioned earlier, it's like "boycott-light"

If people were serious about it, stop using AMD/NVidia/Apple/Intel/Microsoft products...do the stuff that's hard.

"I guess I'll buy this other orange soda brand instead of Faygo" is hardly a sacrifice. (unless one is in the Juggalo community)

 

[stevil]

Ah yes...it's called "DeTrumpify" and shows an unflattering image of him when scanning a bar code, but it has nothing to do with people having a personal grudge against Trump.

C'mon, you know this is ridiculous right? lol.

If someone created an app called "NObama", and every time they scanned a product, it showed an unflattering pic of him with information about which companies donated to the Obama campaign with the intent of getting people to avoid purchasing them, everyone would rightfully identify it as a personal grudge.

Well I see it as responding to the tariffs USA is imposing on countries, not to Trump's existence or to Trump being the president of USA. But specifically in response to these ridiculous tariffs that everyone except Russia is getting slopped onto them.

 

[probinson]

There you go then Elon's other job is safe even though the Tesla company are having some significant financial difficulties due to the boycott.

"This could partly be attributed to political tensions tied to Elon Musk's divisive role in the Trump administration and advocacy for right-wing European parties," Business Insider reported May 5, citing the "Tesla Takedown" movement that emerged in response to Musk's government role and his comments on European politics.​

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On the other hand, the political escapades on Tesla's CEO are only half of the equation. The American automaker experienced plenty of success early on in European markets, but it's far from the only player.​

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Statista asserts that six out of the 10 global best-selling EV brands were from China in 2023. The global domination of Chinese EV brands like BYD, MG, Xpeng, and Nio has only become more prevalent in recent years. Renowned investors Warren Buffet and Charlie Munger have both sung the praises of BYD, taking a huge stake in the company back in 2008.​

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Europe turns on Elon Musk and Tesla as new car sales flatline. What's behind the sales plunge?

Tesla sales have dropped significantly in Europe. Here's why Europeans are looking elsewhere for their new electric vehicles.

www.usatoday.com

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Multiple factors are contributing to Tesla's declining sales, not the least of which is competition from other EV brands.

 

[stevil]

Yes, by making zero sacrifices and not personally inconveniencing yourself by any measurable degree.

It must really annoy some USA folk how easy it is for people to buy alternatives to USA made products.

It's easy people, there really is no excuse not to do it. Plus it will make you Fonzy level cool. Oh hang on Fonzy is a USA dude, um many, well, maybe just generically cool.. How cool is that?

 

[stevil]

Multiple factors are contributing to Tesla's declining sales, not the least of which is competition from other EV brands.

LOL because people are choosing to buy the alternatives. ROLF, LOL, Ha ha, Oh boy. chuckle, Belly laugh, ho ho ho, cackle...

 

[probinson]

Boycotts are much more effective.

They're really not.

Buy sloganned t-shirts is just giving your money to the person that makes the t-shirts.

But it accomplishes pretty much the same thing, letting people know how you feel about something. I've never been one for political slogans on T-shirts. My attire of choice is usually a plain-color quarter zip over a plain white T-shirt. Unless it's warm, and then I wear mostly plain color T-shirts. I won't be winning any fashion awards, that's for sure.

 

[probinson]

It must really annoy some USA folk how easy it is for people to buy alternatives to USA made products.

You are severely overestimating how much people in the US care whether or not you buy Wrigley's gum.

 

[stevil]

But it accomplishes pretty much the same thing, letting people know how you feel about something.

Wearing sloganned t-shirts is the advertising something.
Buying non USA made stuff is not advertising, it is simply private consumer choice.

 

[probinson]

LOL because people are choosing to buy the alternatives.

Sure. And for a myriad of reasons.