Desperate for Help

[fm107]

My son is not saved, he doesn't understand salvation yet. We teach him but he doesn't understand the concept of it yet. He does get spanked. My not only my husband but myself as well..He gets mad and throws things or hits things or destroys something. We do spank him, more than the rest of my children actually because he does alot more. He doesn't care when he gets spanked..and I too am not talking about a slap on the wrist..He definitely gets punished but it's not 10 minutes later he is doing something else.

You said he doesn't care when he gets spanked. And 10 minutes later he is doing something else.

Can't you see what your doing isn't much a punishment at all? The severity of this punishment is obviously no where near it should be if he "doesn't care."

After I got punished, I wouldn't think of doing the things I did. Your idea of punishment is quite simply inaccurate, if I may say so without causing offence.

The bible speaks about using a rod, picture that and try to grasp how severe that is. A son should fear the consequence of bad behaviour. When I was younger I knew if I got up to mischief, boy was I going to get it.

I wouldn't put it down to anything else but poor parenting in regard to punishing a child.

Your wasting your time going to a counsellor or thinking it's child abuse. Just stick with what is biblical and do the job right. As the scripture says:

Proverbs 23:13
Do not hold back discipline from the child, Although you strike him with the rod, he will not die.

Just try to picture the severity of what is being said here.

 

[BornAgainBeliever]

You said he doesn't care when he gets spanked. And 10 minutes later he is doing something else.

Can't you see what your doing isn't much a punishment at all? The severity of this punishment is obviously no where near it should be if he "doesn't care."

After I got punished, I wouldn't think of doing the things I did. Your idea of punishment is quite simply inaccurate, if I may say so without causing offence.

The bible speaks about using a rod, picture that and try to grasp how severe that is. A son should fear the consequence of bad behaviour. When I was younger I knew if I got up to mischief, boy was I going to get it.

I wouldn't put it down to anything else but poor parenting in regard to punishing a child.

Your wasting your time going to a counsellor or thinking it's child abuse. Just stick with what is biblical and do the job right. As the scripture says:

Proverbs 23:13
Do not hold back discipline from the child, Although you strike him with the rod, he will not die.

Just try to picture the severity of what is being said here.

You are not understanding, I am telling you with all seriousness that we do, do that...We have spanked him with a belt, a switch, our hand...it seriously does no good...He cries when we do it but gets mad at the same time, then usually gets punished again for throwing something or breaking something because he is mad..He will go to his room, cry for about 10 minutes and come out and acts like he doesn't care...We do punish him biblically.

 

[JCFantasy23]

You said he doesn't care when he gets spanked. And 10 minutes later he is doing something else.

Can't you see what your doing isn't much a punishment at all? The severity of this punishment is obviously no where near it should be if he "doesn't care."

After I got punished, I wouldn't think of doing the things I did. Your idea of punishment is quite simply inaccurate, if I may say so without causing offence.

The bible speaks about using a rod, picture that and try to grasp how severe that is. A son should fear the consequence of bad behaviour. When I was younger I knew if I got up to mischief, boy was I going to get it.

I wouldn't put it down to anything else but poor parenting in regard to punishing a child.

Your wasting your time going to a counsellor or thinking it's child abuse. Just stick with what is biblical and do the job right. As the scripture says:

Proverbs 23:13
Do not hold back discipline from the child, Although you strike him with the rod, he will not die.

Just try to picture the severity of what is being said here.

Children who don't seem to care about punishment don't necessarily do it because the punishment isn't working. If the spanking is overused the same result can occur, I've known two men this happened with, the person becomes angrier about it and doesn't view it as a punishment in the same way as you'd like.

Hitting harder isn't always the answer. If it's something psychological with the child, beating him more often and more intensely just seems...well, cruel to me. Also, it could further the psychological damage.