Desperate for Help

[BornAgainBeliever]

I am desperate for some help. I am new here and am looking for some advice. I have been saved for 6 years and my husband for 4. I am worried that one of my children may be being influenced by demons or demon possessed. He is only 6 years old but he is very manipulative and tries to harm his two younger sisters. I have also caught him being way more curious sexually than he should be. My husband and I are very careful to shelter our children from things like this. They are not allowed on the internet and we moniter very closely what they watch on t.v. He should not know some of the things he does concerning this. My oldest son is 10 and he still knows nothing about sex. They go to a christian school and, as I said, are closely monitored. How is it my 10 year old knows nothing but my 6 year old does? Once I even caught him trying to push his 3 year old sister out of a 2 story window. We use to have a pool and I also caught him trying to push them into it, knowing they couldn't swim. When asked why he does these things, he just simply says he doesn't know and will sometimes even get a weird grin on his face. At times he can be sweet and loving, but then it seems like he will get off by himself and be totally different when my back is turned. The rest of my children are very well behaved and would not even think of doing some of the things my 6 year old does. I am worried not only for the sake of my son but the safety of my 2 youngest children as well. Can anyone give me some advice as to whether I am dealing with a demonic influence.

 

[JCFantasy23]

You may not like my answer as much but I'm one of those Christians that does not believe in demonic influences like you are describing with your son. All of it sounds very serious. Have you thought of maybe taking your son to counseling? They can do tests there and see if there is anything psychologically wrong causing this violent behavior, this would be the first step to take to rule out any medical problems that may be treatable, or to know of any warning issues in advance. For the sex...well, he could have perhaps seen a magazine, a movie at a friends house, something that sparked his interest, and he may be one of those with early curiosity (I was pretty young also.) Six is about curiosity of the world and this is likely a branch of that. I'm sure he is well monitored but the world seeps through.

 

[BornAgainBeliever]

Demonic possession is in the Bible, it does happen, there are many scriptural references to it in which Jesus and the disciples cast them out of people, including children. Also, he has never been to a friends house and a magazine would have been impossible unless it was passing one in walmart or the grocery store but it is highly unlikely as I myself have never seen a sexually explicit magazine in our local stores in the checkout line. Just young curiosity, maybe, but I just can't understand how at only 6 years old he would know some of the things he does without ever being exposed to it.

 

[Autumnleaf]

I have a child who started acting like that. Spank, spank, spank... She doesn't act like that anymore. Its a question of whether it is worth the price to be paid or not. Nip this in the bud with controlled corporal punishment or you might have a monster on your hands when he grows up.

 

[fm107]

Let's talk about demon possession firstly.

If your son is saved and has the Holy Spirit indwelling within him, he cannot possibly be possessed by a demon. The body of someone who is saved is a temple for the Holy Spirit, no demon can possess a person if the Holy Spirit is in them.

However, we can be influenced by demons, we can be tempted by them. We can also get up to mischief (more so in our younger years).

If your son acts in these ways, what needs to be done is very simple, you need to discipline him. Not with a slap on the wrist by taking away a toy he has or making him stay inside. This will not help your son change his ways.

Proper physical disciple from his father is what your son needs. A good spanking.

Proverbs 13:24
He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him.

Proverbs 22:15
Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child; The rod of discipline will remove it far from him.

Proverbs 23:13
Do not hold back discipline from the child, Although you strike him with the rod, he will not die.

Proverbs 23:14
You shall strike him with the rod And rescue his soul from Sheol. (Hell)

Proverbs 29:15
The rod and reproof give wisdom, But a child who gets his own way brings shame to his mother.

Proverbs 29:17
Correct your son, and he will give you comfort; He will also delight your soul.

I know what mothers are like. They do not want their sons or daughters physically disciplined. But God tells right here in the bible that if you don't do this you hate your son!

I was disciplined in this way, not all the time. But when I deserved it I got it. I grew up into a more disciplined person and a son who loves their parents for disciplining me in this way. I'll say it again, I love my parents for disciplining me in this way. I urge you to likewise, follow scripture. You will quickly see your son acting in a better fashion but remember always to show him you do still love him after these times of discipline.

 

[BornAgainBeliever]

I have a child who started acting like that. Spank, spank, spank... She doesn't act like that anymore. Its a question of whether it is worth the price to be paid or not. Nip this in the bud with controlled corporal punishment or you might have a monster on your hands when he grows up.

I do..my husband and I both do..all of my children are spanked when disobedient..even my 6 year old...He just doesn't care.

 

[BornAgainBeliever]

Let's talk about demon possession firstly.

If your son is saved and has the Holy Spirit indwelling within him, he cannot possibly be possessed by a demon. The body of someone who is saved is a temple for the Holy Spirit, no demon can possess a person if the Holy Spirit is in them.

However, we can be influenced by demons, we can be tempted by them. We can also get up to mischief (more so in our younger years).

If your son acts in these ways, what needs to be done is very simple, you need to discipline him. Not with a slap on the wrist by taking away a toy he has or making him stay inside. This will not help your son change his ways.

Proper physical disciple from his father is what your son needs. A good spanking.

Proverbs 13:24
He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him.

Proverbs 22:15
Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child; The rod of discipline will remove it far from him.

Proverbs 23:13
Do not hold back discipline from the child, Although you strike him with the rod, he will not die.

Proverbs 23:14
You shall strike him with the rod And rescue his soul from Sheol.(Hell)

Proverbs 29:15
The rod and reproof give wisdom, But a child who gets his own way brings shame to his mother.

Proverbs 29:17
Correct your son, and he will give you comfort; He will also delight your soul.

I know what mothers are like. They do not want their sons or daughters physically disciplined. But God tells right here in the bible that if you don't do this you hate your son!

I was disciplined in this way, not all the time. But when I deserved it I got it. I grew up into a more disciplined person and a son who loves their parents for disciplining me in this way. I'll say it again, I love my parents for disciplining me in this way. I urge you to likewise, follow scripture. You will quickly see your son acting in a better fashion but remember always to show him you do still love him after these times of discipline.

My son is not saved, he doesn't understand salvation yet. We teach him but he doesn't understand the concept of it yet. He does get spanked. My not only my husband but myself as well..He gets mad and throws things or hits things or destroys something. We do spank him, more than the rest of my children actually because he does alot more. He doesn't care when he gets spanked..and I too am not talking about a slap on the wrist..He definitely gets punished but it's not 10 minutes later he is doing something else.

 

[Aibrean]

From experience: a Christian school can be worse than a public school by what happens with the students. When I was in school my friends got porn magazines and read them at a slumber party (I was probably 11 or 12). Going to a Christian school does not mean the children are all going to be perfect little angels - just look at your 6 year old.

Before you start thinking there is some kind of Satanic influence around you might consider that your child is having mental issues or some kind of disorder (Asperger for instance). I would get him checked out by a psychologist.

 

[BornAgainBeliever]

From experience: a Christian school can be worse than a public school by what happens with the students. When I was in school my friends got porn magazines and read them at a slumber party (I was probably 11 or 12). Going to a Christian school does not mean the children are all going to be perfect little angels - just look at your 6 year old.

Before you start thinking there is some kind of Satanic influence around you might consider that your child is having mental issues or some kind of disorder (Asperger for instance). I would get him checked out by a psychologist.

I understand that, but this school has only 30 students and my son just completed kindergarten this month. He only went half a day and was in a classroom of only about 5 students..I took him and picked him up...Yes it is possible but very unlikely..The teachers are very strict and pay alot of attention to each child and closely monitor what is brought into the school..Also he has never been to a friends house, or anyones house for that matter other than my parents. The chances of him coming in contact with anything of this matter is extrememly low. Also my other 2 oldest go to the same school and have never come in contact with anything like that, they still have no idea about sex.

Also, I would also prefer to get some advice first from a christian who may have had some experience with demonic possession before I take him to a worldly psychologist.

 

[Aibrean]

You do realize there are Christian psychologists out there.

Do the kids have recess? Lunchtime? There are plenty of times when they can talk out of earshot.

 

[BornAgainBeliever]

You do realize there are Christian psychologists out there.

Do the kids have recess? Lunchtime? There are plenty of times when they can talk out of earshot.

Yes I do know that, but like I said, I was just trying to get some advice from someone that maybe had some experience with this to see if maybe this is what I was dealing with..Like I said, they only went to school for 2 1/2 hours in which they had a short snack time in the classroom.

 

[BornAgainBeliever]

You do realize there are Christian psychologists out there.

Do the kids have recess? Lunchtime? There are plenty of times when they can talk out of earshot.

Plus he started this before he even started school. And at that time, he was never out of my sight other than to visit my mother, and that wasn't very often.

 

[Wanda8]

Hi Born Again:

If you are a member of a good Bible teaching church, I would suggest you start there. It is very possible that your son is under the influence of demonic spirits. Our church has a "deliverance ministry" which specifically handles situations like this. Meet with your pastor and express your concerns. See what services the church can offer.

If your church does not offer any help, remember that the Bible tells us that we have authority over demons. So we can actually cast them out ourselves using the name of Jesus. Check out the book "Devils, Demons, and Spiritual Warfare" by Tom Brown.

 

[BornAgainBeliever]

Hi Born Again:

If you are a member of a good Bible teaching church, I would suggest you start there. It is very possible that your son is under the influence of demonic spirits. Our church has a "deliverance ministry" which specifically handles situations like this. Meet with your pastor and express your concerns. See what services the church can offer.

If your church does not offer any help, remember that the Bible tells us that we have authority over demons. So we can actually cast them out ourselves using the name of Jesus. Check out the book "Devils, Demons, and Spiritual Warfare" by Tom Brown.

Thanks for the advice, I have thought about going to my pastor over it, however our church does not have experience with this that I know of, it is a fairly new church and we just got a new pastor a few weeks ago, however my church goes strictly by Biblical guidelines and principles. I take it since your church has a deliverence ministry you have had some experience with this issue. Are the characterisitics I have explained with my son signs of demonic influence? I just really can't see how it couldn't be with the things that he does and knows. And how am I to be sure?

 

[Aibrean]

Have you ever considered that perhaps your older child is coercing this behavior?

I am not saying you should rule out demon possession but if your child was baptized, attends church regularly, and has been educated with a Christian foundation it seems rather unlikely to me. If the teachers monitor children closely - does he behave this way around them at school?

 

[BornAgainBeliever]

Have you ever considered that perhaps your older child is coercing this behavior?

No..even they are only 10 and 8 and they know less than what he does. He tortures them...I am a stay at home mother and other than when my oldest are at school, I am with them constantly...They don't go to friends houses and when something happens it is always started by my 6 year old. The rest of my children are very well behaved and very innocent in immoral knowledge.

 

[BornAgainBeliever]

Have you ever considered that perhaps your older child is coercing this behavior?

I am not saying you should rule out demon possession but if your child was baptized, attends church regularly, and has been educated with a Christian foundation it seems rather unlikely to me. If the teachers monitor children closely - does he behave this way around them at school?

Sorry I missed the second part of your statement. He has not been baptized, he is not saved since he doesn't understand the concept of being saved yet, he does attend church regularly and has been educated with a Christian foundation, however there have been instances where demonic possession has taken place even with these circumstances..And to your question, no, he is not as bad at school as he is at home...There are actually only certain times in which he acts this way, it's like during these times, he isn't himself. And these are the times that he becomes manipulative and tries to secretively hurt someone.

 

[Aibrean]

No..even they are only 10 and 8 and they know less than what he does. He tortures them...I am a stay at home mother and other than when my oldest are at school, I am with them constantly...They don't go to friends houses and when something happens it is always started by my 6 year old. The rest of my children are very well behaved and very innocent in immoral knowledge.

I'm talking about the destructive behavior - not the sexual bit.

Kids are human and have a sinful nature. They don't need to be taught how to be sinful, they do it naturally. It sounds like you have done all you can as a parent. If you don't want to go to a psychologist then go to your pastor without delay.

 

[Wanda8]

Thanks for the advice, I have thought about going to my pastor over it, however our church does not have experience with this that I know of, it is a fairly new church and we just got a new pastor a few weeks ago, however my church goes strictly by Biblical guidelines and principles. I take it since your church has a deliverence ministry you have had some experience with this issue. Are the characterisitics I have explained with my son signs of demonic influence? I just really can't see how it couldn't be with the things that he does and knows. And how am I to be sure?

Yes, it sounds like it. How can you be sure? Only God knows for sure, so ask Him to guide you where this is concerned and He will. Seek God for that answer and trust what He places on your heart.

My experience, I do know of more than one Christian that has been possessed by demons. I had a similar situation with my son when he was about 4yrs old. He was just extremely mean and angry all the time for no apparent reason. Like you, I began to feel in my spirit that it was a spiritual problem. So, I laid hands on him and prayed over him myself. I called out spirits of rebellion and any other spirits I could think of in the name of Jesus and declared the promises of God over my son's life. From that day on, his behavior changed for the better.

So, trust what the Spirit is already speaking to your heart. If you need spiritual support, go to your pastor no matter how new he is to the church and ask he and other mature believers to pray over your son. Or do it yourself. This is merely the laying on of hands and speaking God's Word. This does not require anyone to harm or jeopardize the safety of your son.

Don't be afraid of making the wrong decision. If you find that this was not the problem, then what have you lost? Absolutely nothing, your son simply received much needed prayer. From there, ask the Lord to lead you to a Christian child psychologist. In the meantime, continue to pray daily for him. Another good book is "The Power of a Praying Parent", by Stormie Omaritian

 

[bliz]

I believe in demon posession, but I also believe in the consequences of sin.

Your son is angry and displaying signs of a child who has been sexually abused. It could also be other things, but the sexual knowledge is a common common result. Please take you son to see a child psychologist.