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I’m also not saying that He doesn’t love those less who are not promoted in that way. Probably off topic too.Somehow it must be a deserving of reward. That’s all I’m saying. I’m not saying it’s of our own doing, but that service to Him is somehow calculated as being worthwhile or not.
No... but some would say He has some kind of obligation or commitment to us for creating us this way...for discussion
Is there anything in us or about us that make us deserving of the Father’s love?
Christ made/makes us deserving, but God does not owe us anything...How are we defining "deserving" here...?
As in He owes us it...?
God Bless!
Very well, the dichotomy presented in the OP question does not reflect the heart of God. And new thread started. Thanks for talk.Okay. Still not on topic, though.
Okay. We might earn rewards, but that’s different than deserving His love.Somehow it must be a deserving of reward. That’s all I’m saying. I’m not saying it’s of our own doing, but that service to Him is somehow calculated as being worthwhile or not.
You just said we are undeserving.It is He who suffered for the undeserving, the worthless and the broken. It is He that will answer your question of why we deserve what He did for us not any of us.
So nothing in ourselves.Any worth that we or any other part of creation has comes from Him. He sets the rules, not us.
We become His children.We are his children not to mention that he put us in the situation where the tree was.
So you think you were worth dying for?Is there anything in us or about us that make us deserving of the Father’s love?
Yes, God sees value in us in the fact that we are made in the image of God, we are sons of God (via from Adam), and in the fact that we can be made into vessels of honor for the purposes of God's glory.
Yes, it is true that God died for us while we were yet sinners, but God did not die for us to remain as sinners but to be new creations in His image.
"For I know the plans I have for you,” says the LORD. “They are plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope." (Jeremiah 29:11).
18 "And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator." (1 Peter 4:18-19).
I mean, why would God reward us for our acts of obedience if we are not deserving of His love? It makes no sense.
Why would God die for nothing that has value? God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, so that we can have eternal life. This eternal life involves us living a Sanctified and holy life here and giving glory to Him. God knows the future and He wants us to be deserving and worthy of Him.
The time that we are said not to be worthy of Him is when Jesus says:
"He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." (Matthew 10:37).
"And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me." (Matthew 10:38).
Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through him! (Romans 5:7-9)So you think you were worth dying for?
I guess that’s a “no”.Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through him! (Romans 5:7-9)
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