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I still think the economy will be tye deciding factor. If its good the Republicans will stay in power. If not the Democrats will take over.I think that many of these voters are not paying attention. They go about their daily lives, and on election day, they just vote Democrat. In the South, we call them "yellow dog Democrats." Their parents and grandparents voted Democrat, and they just push the party ticket every election. But I also think that many of these are taking notice and maybe, at least, are voting a split ticket on some candidates. Should be an interesting mid-term.
She took her "preferred pronouns" off her websites the morning after Trump was elected.The culture war is primarily one of the biggest issues for the Democratic Party. Its the war they have pushed, which by the way includes illegal immigration. But its not limited to that as we see with people like Mamdani.
His policies are not strictly social. They include strong leftist economy measures as well. So we will see where the party is headed. AOC is along the same lines and a conglomeration of both social and economic leftism.
I don't know--Bernie and AOC have been drawing big crowds with it. The party elite don't want it--their big buck campaign contributions don't come from the working class.She and many of her supporters are the same. So, right now there are rising stars that are not either/or. They are both. Thats the battle the Democrtic Party has to wage. Do they want to be both or focus on just worker and economic. We will see how that plays out. I don't believe too many supporters will welcome a labor/economy left.
It may well be that a new party will have to emerge, but in the meantime Trump & Co. have been doing us a favor by throwing mud at the champions of the globalist faction, the Clintons and Obama, principally.They want both. And thats where they will continue to lose support if they stay on that path.
Perhaps you should follow the forum rules_ -you are not a moderator and the poster is intelligent and informed, needing no help from you IMHO.Perhaps you need to read carefully what was actually written:
Potatoe - Potato - did you read the link or ignore it?She didn't say anything about the working class suporting the Republicans, but rather the other way around.
The working class has of course supported the Republicans in the past. Who do you think the "Silent Majority" or the "Reagan Democrats" or the "Religious Right" were? Urban professionals and small business owners all of them?
Why on earth would ANYONE with the brain the size of a flea support at group that was not supporting them?The morning-after reviews of the 2024 votes are clear - the Democratic Party is losing ground among blue-collar workers.
It's not a surprise they have been loosing voters from every strata except the super wealthy."The Democratic Party’s image has eroded to its lowest point in more than three decades, according to a new Wall Street Journal poll, with voters seeing Republicans as better at handling most issues that decide elections.
The new survey finds that 63% of voters hold an unfavorable view of the Democratic Party—the highest share in Journal polls dating to 1990 and 30 percentage points higher than the 33% who hold a favorable view."
This is another mistake that is made far too often by the leftists. It's not a Christian Right win. There are millions of conservatives that are not Christians nor belong to the Christian right. Rhere are millions who are actually not right at all but more centrist who used to vote Democratic, but do not any longer. To relegate these issues to the Christian right is another mistake. And as long as the Democrats continue to think that, they will continue to lose.Exactly my point. The Democrats need to dump their elitist wing and the culture war sex stuff. Let the Christian Right win the culture war--it will be a Pyrrhic victory,
Irrelevant. She has kept up pushing these social issues.She took her "preferred pronouns" off her websites the morning after Trump was elected.
What favors? Democrats are still way under water.It may well be that a new party will have to emerge, but in the meantime Trump & Co. have been doing us a favor by throwing mud at the champions of the globalist faction, the Clintons and Obama, principally.
I did address your post, the part of it where you confused "Republicans supporting the working class" for "the working class supporting Republicans". They ARE NOT THE SAME THING.Perhaps you should follow the forum rules_ -you are not a moderator and the poster is intelligent and informed, needing no help from you IMHO.
Members who participate in the American Politics forum are expected to treat one another with courtesy and respect at all times, ESPECIALLY when you disagree with each other.
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I don't know why working class voters support the GOP. It's been called "voting against their own interests" for as long as I remember.Potatoe - Potato - did you read the link or ignore it?
Why on earth would ANYONE with the brain the size of a flea support at group that was not supporting them?
We disagreeI did address your post, the part of it where you confused "Republicans supporting the working class" for "the working class supporting Republicans". They ARE NOT THE SAME THING.
I can understand why you would have that point of view. I’m in Germany 3 to 4 times a year in fact just got back from Berlin a couple weeks ago.I don't know why working class voters support the GOP. It's been called "voting against their own interests" for as long as I remember.
I don't know why working class voters support the GOP. It's been called "voting against their own interests" for as long as I remember.
I think that if Bernie and AOC were able to move the Democratic party past the big buck supporters and more toward supporting the working class and working class issues, the party would be a lot better off. But the lure of big money is a hard thing to overcome.I don't know--Bernie and AOC have been drawing big crowds with it. The party elite don't want it--their big buck campaign contributions don't come from the working class.
It may well be that a new party will have to emerge, but in the meantime Trump & Co. have been doing us a favor by throwing mud at the champions of the globalist faction, the Clintons and Obama, principally.
There is nothing to disagree with. It was not about opinion, but fact. You were wrong.We disagree
I don't watch those channels and we aren't in those countries.I can understand why you would have that point of view. I’m in Germany 3 to 4 times a year in fact just got back from Berlin a couple weeks ago.
My opinion is that the news particularly in Germany and Latvia is really severely limited in that you have CNN And the BBC and nothing that represents the conservative faction in the United States.
Do your links consider the disagreements that the Democratic base is having with their leadership? This is the cause of the "low rating".The reality in the of the matter is found in the links to the post that I’ve already given, and the fact that the Democratic Party has been losing the common voter for years.
Something went wrong with this. I have no idea what "the altar, Rich" is supposed to be.They cater to the altar, Rich They cater to celebrities and they cater to LGBTQ and homosexuals.
There’s very little reaching out to the middle class or the every day worker beyond doubting unions.
In fact, some of their leadership is actively talking about it that they should start listening to their constituents instead of telling their constituents what to believe
My mistake on the country - please excuse my error.I don't watch those channels and we aren't in those countries.
You wouldn't have to ask the question if you had read the links.Do your links consider the disagreements that the Democratic base is having with their leadership? This is the cause of the "low rating".
Too many old folks too inertiaficated to do anything to improve your quixotic nation.What happened?
What we are discussing is not "reporting". It is a poll and some analysis. There are many places I can read that analysis, and I have in many of them. It's kind of endless in the "dem spaces" at this point.My mistake on the country - please excuse my error.
For not watching those channels - you reflect their reporting remarkably similar right down to almost verbatim statements. Fascinating.
I don't read the Wall Street Journal either. No subscription. This is why I don't care for argument by raw link.You wouldn't have to ask the question if you had read the links.
The GOP has not provided better economies. Under Democratic presidents employment is head over hills better than Republicans. Under Democratic presidents the GDP is better than Republican presidents. Inflation is negotiable pending events like oil embargoes or pandemics. Yes, they did cut taxes, but added to the deficit to do so. So, it's really not a cut if the US has to sale t-bills to pay for those tax cuts which in the end Americans will have to pay back with interest. Now retired I was one of those Union working classes. And the phenomenon for workers in that arena to vote against their best interest is strong in America. We see it now with businesses shuttered, layoffs, loss of income, rural hospital closures, and plant closures because of voting against their best interest. How many "this is not what I voted for" regret accounts do we see daily?I think its because the working class has realized their support for Democrats have gotten them nowhere. Their values are no longer the values of the Democratic party who have forsaken them for radical leftist ideology and elitism. Whereas the Republicans have cut their taxes, provided better economies and lower inflation. Combine that with a support of working class values the Republicans have given them a better way.
Your statement is rather elitist and provides another reason why Democrats have lost them.
They appear to be inseparable amongst the Democrats.And a concerted effort on the part of Conservatives to conflate the culture war sex stuff Left with the labor/economy Left,
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