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as far as dress code is concerned, Scripture understands that men are visually stimulated while women are spiritually stimulated. this is why dress codes are given to women and not men. while nudity is regarded as shameful for both genders, males are going to be more drawn to the visual stimulation of physical beauty much more than women, which is why scripture warns men against falling into the trap of charm and beauty(proverbs 7:6-27 proverbs 31:30)
Where do we see that scripture understands this? I'd say that both men and women are visually stimulated; Gen 39:6.
not sure of the point of your reference...
'Now Joseph was handsome in form and appearance.'
/\ Spoken of a man, not a woman.
Women are visually stimulated by nice looking men.
rather, they notice the good looks of a nice looking man, but will be truly drawn to that man by his personality, confidence, and his resources.
rather, they notice the good looks of a nice looking man, but will be truly drawn to that man by his personality, confidence, and his resources.
looks are not utterly irrelevant, but a women will be drawn by what a man does way more than what he looks like.
You said the bible makes your view clear.
Show me from the bible.
if you're looking for a verse that says "women want a man who has personality, confidence, and resources" you won't find that verse. you also won't find a verse that says "Jesus was fully God and fully man with no mixing of the natures" or "God is one being comprised of 3 distinct persons co-equal and co-eternal" along with the absence of the words "trinity" and "hypostatic union".
so if you're looking for a proof text...you got me...I got nothin'.
my statement comes from the light of nature which is something God created. not culture, but nature. adam was made first and told to work the ground and eve was made to be his helper. ephesians 5 tells women to submit to their husband and for the husband to provide protect, and serve the woman(sacrificing his life....which include his resources!). titus 2 and 1 timothy 5 tell women to be discreet(can't do that when you're running around topless) and a keeper of the home and 1 peter 3 has them as the weaker vessel and that men should dwell with them in understanding. james 1 tells us that true religion involves caring for widows as well as orphans. 1 timothy 5 also says that a man is reprobate if he doesn't provide for his household.
with all that said about women, is she going to be more concerned about how hot a guy is or what that man can do for her?
it logically follows from the gender roles that are layed out in scripture.It's a non-sequitur. Just because men are to provide for women, etc. doesn't mean women aren't visually stimulated. Why can't women have both?
Also, "more vs less" doesn't work. For example, she could logically be just as stimulated visually as we are, while at the same time having even greater desire than that for him to provide for her.
And some men can be provoked no matter what a woman is wearing.
whereas a woman would seek a man who can protect, provide and lead.
it logically follows from the gender roles that are layed out in scripture.
a man seeks a beautiful woman to bestow his resources on and sacrifice for whereas a woman would seek a man who can protect, provide and lead. because men are visual, women are told in scripture to be aware of their apparel and men are being warned to not fall for the raw beauty of a woman without substance.
if these traps were equally as perilous for women scripture would have warned both genders of this mutually. it did not. the warnings were gender specific. we're left to assume that these instructions for women on how they dress equally apply to men and the warnings against falling for charm and beauty equally apply to women.
you're not getting that from scripture, so where are you getting that from?
I think this is common in societies - like the ones reflected in the Bible - where women are relatively powerless and need protection, provision and leadership. In our own society, where a woman can often see to her own safety and financial security, we see that women seek these things less, and are more likely to be concerned about other things (like visual gratification).
In other words, what we're tempted by or drawn to is often as much about our circumstances at that time, as it is about "nature."
I think this is common in societies - like the ones reflected in the Bible - where women are relatively powerless and need protection, provision and leadership. In our own society, where a woman can often see to her own safety and financial security, we see that women seek these things less, and are more likely to be concerned about other things (like visual gratification).
In other words, what we're tempted by or drawn to is often as much about our circumstances at that time, as it is about "nature."
and then there are the feminists who seek to go head to head with men in all arenas of life.
the exceptions don't do away with the rule.
Although I tend to agree with you, I'm looking for scriptures or arguments based on scripture to prove one way or another. It's entirely possible that society's standards have loosened due to humanity becoming more evil, as we know will happen in the latter times.
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