Debunking Flat Earth

[Freodin]

Thanks?

I've been through all that stuff, or at least similar. I'm well into almost 2 years of looking at both sides. Also, scrap anything having to do with Sci-Man Dan, he's nothing but a buffoon, a source of entertainment for sure.

You chose Jeranism as your go to source for "evidence"... a guy who is on record for mangling basic mathematics.

SciManDan hasn't provided faulty calculations as yet. There is nothing in this clips that would merit calling him a "buffoon"... except that you don't agree with what he says.

 

[Strathos]

Also, the whole 'I'm not going to bother to provide any evidence because you'll ridicule me' is just a cop-out. Please note that in practically every flat earth thread, a definitive pattern emerges:

1. Someone points out major problems with the flat earth idea, and asks its proponents to explain them.
2. They deflect and refuse to answer the questions, instead going off on other subjects and making ignorant attacks against the round earth model.

There's another thread on the front page of this very forum right now where the OP points out another reason why the earth isn't flat. That thread has lasted 6 pages and not one flat earther has actually bothered to even try to address the question posed by the OP.

You try to portray us as close-minded, but actually it's the other way around. You never actually think about the questions we raise and always try to come up with excuses to avoid answering them. Meanwhile, several months ago, I was inspired by some of the flat earth threads on these forums so I took a pair of binoculars to the beach (about a 10 minute walk from where I live) and tested the flat earth claim that you can see ships that have disappeared over the horizon by zooming in on them. No such luck.

When I mentioned that here, I got the excuse that 'binoculars aren't good enough, you need a high-powered telescope'. Ignoring for the moment how that makes no sense (if it's just a matter of zooming in, then the 5-10x magnification provided by typical binoculars should be more than enough, considering that I'm using them to look for a ship only seconds after it seems to have disappeared to the naked eye), but if I did get such a telescope, you can bet that the flat earthers would then tell me that it wasn't good enough, I need an even more powerful telescope. And so on and so on, every time I upgrade to one.

Which side honestly seems like the one that's afraid of ever admitting that they might be wrong?

 

[d taylor]

God gave us the Bible.

satan has given us science books.

 

[A_Thinker]

Here, I'll give you something...

And so it falls apart ...

Thanks for that ...

 

[A_Thinker]

God gave us the Bible.

satan has given us science books.

So ... would that just be science books ?

What about history books, grammar books, literature, spelling books, etc. ? Would these all be supplied by Satan ?

 

[Freodin]

Also, the whole 'I'm not going to bother to provide any evidence because you'll ridicule me' is just a cop-out. Please note that in practically every flat earth thread, a definitive pattern emerges:

And I'd like to add that, after having provided evidence for the evasive approach the Flat Earthers like to use, it was answered by... ridicule.

If only there was some divine revelation about logs in your own eyes or such...

 

[Freodin]

So ... would that just be science books ?

What about history books, grammar books, literature, spelling books, etc. ? Would these all be supplied by Satan ?

I pointed that out before.
Every single source of informations is fake and lies and satantic. Because it is promoted by the "elite" who is fake and liars and satanists. Even if these people are the Fathers of the Church, who were maryred for promoting a certain book.

But this book - the Bible - this one is pure and unsullied and the truth... because reasons.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Here, I'll give you something...

Meh; that's all you've got... flat Earth muppets.

 

[Strathos]

I pointed that out before.
Every single source of informations is fake and lies and satantic. Because it is promoted by the "elite" who is fake and liars and satanists. Even if these people are the Fathers of the Church, who were maryred for promoting a certain book.

But this book - the Bible - this one is pure and unsullied and the truth... because reasons.

The Bible doesn't even say most of what the anti-science types like to claim it says.

 

[essentialsaltes]

It occurs to me that a surprising, but very useful, result of Newtonian gravity is that all extended objects can be treated as though all their mass was concentrated at the center of mass.

So if the Earth was shaped like an LP, and Newtonian gravity is approximately true, then everything on DiscEarth should fall directly towards 'the hole in the record' (Jerusalem, maybe?) as opposed to 'down'.

 

[d taylor]

Like i say if not till the second coming, or when you die (what ever come first) each and every person will get the answer to this. Some it will be to late, others i guess at the judgment seat of The Messiah you will have to see if this affects you judgment seat, judgment.

All i know is i am trusting God and His given word to be accurate in the description of His creation.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

It occurs to me that a surprising, but very useful, result of Newtonian gravity is that all extended objects can be treated as though all their mass was concentrated at the center of mass.

So if the Earth was shaped like an LP, and Newtonian gravity is approximately true, then everything on DiscEarth should fall directly towards 'the hole in the record' (Jerusalem, maybe?) as opposed to 'down'.

Gravity does not exist on FE.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Gravity does not exist on FE.

I'm afraid to ask. I was also afraid to look. But I did. It looks like the FE society supports the idea that the earth is a big elevator, accelerating upward at 9.8m/s^2 and that's why we feel squished down.

While this is an admirable use of the Equivalence Principle, it raises still more questions. The FES is only too happy to provide dumb answers.

Q: "Why does gravity vary with altitude?"
A: The moon and stars have a slight gravitational pull.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

I'm afraid to ask. I was also afraid to look. But I did. It looks like the FE society supports the idea that the earth is a big elevator, accelerating upward at 9.8m/s^2 and that's why we feel squished down.

While this is an admirable use of the Equivalence Principle, it raises still more questions. The FES is only too happy to provide dumb answers.

Q: "Why does gravity vary with altitude?"
A: The moon and stars have a slight gravitational pull.

I also love the fact that gravity exists elsewhere, just not on FE.

 

[morse86]

I'm afraid to ask. I was also afraid to look. But I did. It looks like the FE society supports the idea that the earth is a big elevator, accelerating upward at 9.8m/s^2 and that's why we feel squished down.

While this is an admirable use of the Equivalence Principle, it raises still more questions. The FES is only too happy to provide dumb answers.

Q: "Why does gravity vary with altitude?"
A: The moon and stars have a slight gravitational pull.

Are you serious??

NOBODY IN THE FLAT EARTH MOVEMENT BELIEVES THE FLAT EARTH SOCIETY!!!!!

How many times does this have to be said?? The "Flat Earth Society" is a parody website, disinformation and noise website, controlled opposition. Nobody takes them seriously.

Did you even bother listening to the video? Your OWN $cientist actors say they can measure gravity but they have NO CLUE what it is or where it comes from.

 

[Lost4words]

Flat earth movement / flat earth society. I thought they were the same!

 

[Astrophile]

Did you even bother listening to the video? Your OWN $cientist actors say they can measure gravity but they have NO CLUE what it is or where it comes from.

Not only can scientists measure gravity; they can predict its consequences.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Are you serious??

NOBODY IN THE FLAT EARTH MOVEMENT BELIEVES THE FLAT EARTH SOCIETY!!!!!

Sorry. Anyway, so what is it that sticks our feet to the ground? Newtonian gravity won't work on a disc.

Your OWN $cientist actors say they can measure gravity but they have NO CLUE what it is or where it comes from.

Gravity is the effect of the curvature of space-time caused by the stress-energy tensor. It looks a lot like Newtonian gravity (which is the universal attraction of all masses) under most circumstances at the human scale.

Our theories predict and explain why sensitive scales measure differences in weight on mountain tops as opposed to at sea level, or in the horse latitudes as opposed to the equator.

How does your preferred flat earth theory explain these phenomena?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Sorry. Anyway, so what is it that sticks our feet to the ground? Newtonian gravity won't work on a disc.



Gravity is the effect of the curvature of space-time caused by the stress-energy tensor. It looks a lot like Newtonian gravity (which is the universal attraction of all masses) under most circumstances at the human scale.

Our theories predict and explain why sensitive scales measure differences in weight on mountain tops as opposed to at sea level, or in the horse latitudes as opposed to the equator.

How does your preferred flat earth theory explain these phenomena?

It's not just FES that denies gravity. In this thread, read from post 82 onwards. It's weird.

 

[morse86]

It's not just FES that denies gravity. In this thread, read from post 82 onwards. It's weird.

What are you even talking about??? Nobody is denying gravity.

We're saying NOBODY knows where it comes from or what it is.

Einstein's garbage time space theory is garbage theoretical nonsense that has nothing to do with science. It should belong in the non-fiction nonsense section.