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Nice try. If you deny that there is a force pulling objects toward each other you are denying gravity. That is exactly what the poster is doing - denying the apparent force but lacking an alternative explanation for the effect.
 
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For arguments sake, if one did believe what it says about the earth being created on day 1 and the planets on day 4, why would such a person ever presume the earth is just another planet?

Because actual evidence trumps mere beliefs any day of the week.
 
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For arguments sake, if one did believe what it says about the earth being created on day 1 and the planets on day 4, why would such a person ever presume the earth is just another planet?
Where does it say the planets were created on day 4? I'd say you're choosing to infer something that isn't there.
 
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Anyone knows when a camera is attached to a rising balloon the fluctuation in the balloon when it is rising can cause distortion in the camera.
But when the balloon has stopped rising and is resting right before the burst, for a good 15 seconds on the video is seen a flat stationary earth.
 
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Anyone knows when a camera is attached to a rising balloon the fluctuation in the balloon when it is rising can cause distortion in the camera.
But when the balloon has stopped rising and is resting right before the burst, for a good 15 seconds on the video is seen a flat stationary earth.

A balloon ???

Steady ??

Not really ...

So ... what is really the case is that there is maybe 15 seconds in the recorded video where the horizon shows flat, before it distorts to concave ... or convex.

My conclusions from watching such videos ... is that balloon mounted video ... is not a good way to establish flatness ... or curve.
 
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Anyone knows when a camera is attached to a rising balloon the fluctuation in the balloon when it is rising can cause distortion in the camera.

Can? So it's entirely possible that there's no distortion? Hmmm, that's tricky, eh?

Oh, there is distortion ... from the camera videography itself.

Balloon photography/videography, simply, is not a good way to establish the accuracy of what you are seeing.
 
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I cant decide whether your post is admirable for the effort on display or ridiculous for continuing to engage in this absurd game theyre playing.
 
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Why argue about gravity? Its here and thats all that matters! Flat earth is 'NOT' here, so argue about that!

It's true that it's kinda silly to be arguing about something so settled as the shape of the earth, but the flat earthers have to have some sort of model that explains the evidence we see around us, like what we know about gravity. When pressed, we mostly get rants about brainwashing, or an invitation to watch a 90 minute video, rather than any clear responses. Hopefully, if pressed on all these issues, they'll see that they have no real answers or theory at all.
 
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FE believers are a select group of people i think. I think they are pulled in to believe any conspiracy theory that raises its head. They dismiss science.

Science that has brought us so so many life saving inventions, technological breakthroughs etc etc.

God gave us Science. He gave us the ability to learn about HIS creation. Yet, people would rather go it alone and follow paths that ultimately lead to dead ends and untruths.
 
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It appears that Flat Earth promoter Eric Dubay is a Holocaust Denier.

Why the Holocaust Denial?

I wonder if Flat Earth enthusiasts understand that Dubay is the source for most of their arguments for Flat Earth and against the Globe Earth ?

Some of these are ...

"The horizon appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around ... "
"The horizon always rises to one's eye-level."
"Water always finds its level."
"Surveyors, engineers, and architects do not take curve into account."
"Planes would need to constantly dip their noses on a Globe Earth."

Dubay also references Airy's Failure, the Michelson_Morley and Sagnac experiments, and his incredulity regarding the ability of gravity to hold the oceans to a globe, while simultaneously allowing for bird and butterfly flight.

Just about every Flat Earth argument can find it's origin in Eric Dubay's "200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball"

The PDF can be downloaded at the link below ...

http://www.freepdf.info/index.php?post/Eric-Dubay-200-proofs-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball
 
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I cant decide whether your post is admirable for the effort on display or ridiculous for continuing to engage in this absurd game theyre playing.
Lol! both? BS is expected, but arrogant BS is just rude - so I had a bit of search practice; after all, he might once have posted a useful link... but as far as I can see, it's complete BS.
 
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FE believers are a select group of people i think. I think they are pulled in to believe any conspiracy theory that raises its head. They dismiss science.
Science is difficult, and makes disconcerting claims; if you don't have a decent science grounding, it can feel exclusive and elitist. Rejecting it in favour of provocative pseudoscience and reversing the burden of proof takes back control of the narrative.
 
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