Darwin - Half Right

[Astrid]

Oops! Then we'll need transitional forms between Occitan and Latin and between Occitan and Medieval French.

Once we have that we'll need transitional forms between Medieval French and modern French (closer in to the Tower of Babel you can get with the dating the better).

English speciated into froms that can hardly
understand eachother.

 

[AV1611VET]

Well, get on it then!

That's what we call our Great Commission!

 

[AV1611VET]

You need to find the first person who spoke Frenvh.

Welcome back, Estrid!

 

[sjastro]

[creationist modus] This is evolution. Hence wrong. All educatees just hate christianity and the bible. You need to home school you children and just tell them about the Tower of Babel, not those satanic lies of languages "evolving into one another". If a language evolved show me than Latin giving birth to French. [/creationist modus]

Creationists have blamed evolution theory on the propagation of racism.
The Indo-Aryan languages must therefore be a branch of a master language superior to all other languages.

 

[AV1611VET]

Creationists have blamed evolution theory on the propagation of racism.

That was tested in the mid 20th century and assumed false, since the experiment was interrupted by a Christian nation.

 

[Oneiric1975]

That was tested in the mid 20th century and assumed false, since the experiment was interrupted by a Christian nation.

....with the help of 550,000 Jewish Americans who fought (thankfully they pitched in to help the "Christian Nation")

Also it's kind of weird to think of Germany as anything but a Christian nation at that time anyway. I mean Hitler made a LOT of use of his association with Christianity to get people on board with him. And Germany grew out of the remains of the Holy Roman Empire and was later the home of the ORIGINAL Protestant (Martin Luther)...and Martin Luther had some serious problems with Jews.

So "Christianity" was not a perfect bulwark against racism. It should be but it isn't.

 

[Ophiolite]

And I just spent some time telling you about one. But Ham and Hovind are charlatans. No more. No less. They deserve all the respect they get from anyone with a basic understanding of the evolutionary process. Which is none. Because, like you, they don't understand enough of the science to be able to argue against it. Yet they do. Which makes them look foolish. They are intentionally ignorant, which is the worst sort of ignorance.

As opposed to my old CA chum who was extremely well versed in the science and one had to treat his arguments with some respect. There was no hand waving. I actually learned a lot more about evolution in debating him. I had to because one needs to argue as much on equal terms as possible. There were actually times when I had to admit I wasn't up to speed on some aspect of a point he was making so I had to take time out to learn about it to make sure he had a good point or not. And then re-engage.

But you can't seem to be bothered. You're in the same boat as Ham and Hovind (no pun intended re Ham).

And yes, a little child can argue against evolution. Because a little child doesn't understand the basics. It all sounds impossible to a child. But that's exactly the level at which you are arguing.

I always love a post that exactly captures my thinking, yet expresses it with greater eloquence. For one thing it saves me from the effort of trying to post those thoughts myself. Cheers.
(It was so good, I just read it again, something I rarely do. )

 

[sjastro]

That was tested in the mid 20th century and assumed false, since the experiment was interrupted by a Christian nation.

The Discovery Institute, the society of closet creationists, have made it a mantra of associating evolution with racism under the banner scientific racism.

Here is an example of their work.

 

[Oneiric1975]

The Discovery Institute, the society of closet creationists, have made it a mantra of associating evolution with racism under the banner scientific racism.

Here is an example of their work.

We know that the Bible was used to justify slavery in the US, that Christian nations in Medieval Europe conducted some of the most horrific pogroms, and that the Crusades were conducted in the very name of God and the Church.

So it seems that everything can be misused to unpleasant ends, even when they aren't originally made to do so.

 

[dlamberth]

The Discovery Institute, the society of closet creationists, have made it a mantra of associating evolution with racism under the banner scientific racism.

Here is an example of their work.

I've always wondered where this stuff came from.
Thanks for the info.

 

[dlamberth]

We know that the Bible was used to justify slavery in the US, that Christian nations in Medieval Europe conducted some of the most horrific pogroms, and that the Crusades were conducted in the very name of God and the Church.

So it seems that everything can be misused to unpleasant ends, even when they aren't originally made to do so.

I might add that in Medieval Europe the Bible was used to justify the treatment of women that is not much different than how the Taliban treat women today. And that type of thinking continued way pass the Medieval times actually. There's no way I believe that's the Bibles intent. But because Eve got a bad review, that's what happened.

 

[Astrid]

I might add that in Medieval Europe the Bible was used to justify the treatment of women that is not much different than how the Taliban treat women today. And that type of thinking continued way pass the Medieval times actually. There's no way I believe that's the Bibles intent. But because Eve got a bad review, that's what happened.

Men seem to like having an excuse for mistreating
women, little connection as there may to their real
reasons.

Speaking here partly from personal experience.

 

[Hans Blaster]

That was tested in the mid 20th century and assumed false, since the experiment was interrupted by a Christian nation.

What mid-century experiment and which christian nation?

 

[Bradskii]

That was tested in the mid 20th century and assumed false, since the experiment was interrupted by a Christian nation.

From wiki:

"By 1939... the overwhelming majority of 94.5% remained Protestant or Catholic..."

That's quite high. Definitely a Christian nation. No doubt about that. Oh, and that was Germany by the way.

 

[AV1611VET]

So "Christianity" was not a perfect bulwark against racism. It should be but it isn't.

Whether it is or isn't ... and it should be, in my opinion ... but whether it is or isn't, I'll state my point again:

Hitler's experiment was interrupted by a Christian nation.

 

[VirOptimus]

Whether it is or isn't ... and it should be, in my opinion ... but whether it is or isn't, I'll state my point again:

Hitler's experiment was interrupted by a Christian nation.

Russia was a christian nation?

Seems like history is something you also is ignorant about.

 

[AV1611VET]

Here is an example of their work.

For the record, I don't have anything to do with the Discovery Institute, ICR or any other institution, with the exception of some missionary clearinghouses.

 

[AV1611VET]

So it seems that everything can be misused to unpleasant ends, even when they aren't originally made to do so.

As I'm fond of asking people:

In your opinion, were these crusades, witch hunts, and other atrocities done with respect to the Bible, or in spite of It?

I vote in spite of It.

They may think they were doing the right thing, but they weren't.

 

[AV1611VET]

There's no way I believe that's the Bibles intent.

 

[AV1611VET]

From wiki:

"By 1939... the overwhelming majority of 94.5% remained Protestant or Catholic..."

That's quite high. Definitely a Christian nation. No doubt about that. Oh, and that was Germany by the way.

Neat.

Which one had God on its side, in your opinion?