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Daniel's 70th Week

JLB777

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I'm trying to get you familiar with your NT use of the OT. Jn 19.


This scripture from Zechariah describes the Coming of the Lord at the end of the age, whereby every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him.


9 It shall be in that day that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. 10 "And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. Zechariah 12:9-10

If all the people of Israel HAVE SEEN THE MESSIAH, AND THEY ALL HAVE MOURNED AS THEY SEE HIM, why do they still reject Him as Messiah?


Are you trying to imply that this scripture has been fulfilled, if so write out the scripture that you believe fulfills it.


If not then you are just rambling on with man's commentary.


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Ohh, you mean John's commentary in ch 19?


I have not seen any such scripture from you.

If you have a scripture, then post it.

If not we all will just conclude that Preterism is just a man made doctrine.



This scripture from Zechariah describes the Coming of the Lord at the end of the age, whereby every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him.


9 It shall be in that day that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. 10 "And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. Zechariah 12:9-10

If all the people of Israel HAVE SEEN THE MESSIAH, AND THEY ALL HAVE MOURNED AS THEY SEE HIM, why do they still reject Him as Messiah?


Are you trying to imply that this scripture has been fulfilled, if so write out the scripture that you believe fulfills it.


If not then you are just rambling on with man's commentary.


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JLB, Interplanter is asserting that John 19 relates that Zech. 12:10 was fulfilled when the soldiers took Jesus down from the Cross.

The hole in Inter's arguement is Revelation 1:7, which, was/is, yet future, from that day at Golgotha.

Its the same principle as that difference in "seed" as used by the Holy Spirit through Peter, in Acts 3, and Christ through Paul in Galatians 3.

But that right there is the "seed" of the Replacementist error - that ever so subtle reasoning one's wisdom in its own conceits into passages that, by that, they harmonize what they have failed to understand to begin with because their reasoning premise, born of the errors of the commentaries individuals so early concluded was the way to understand Scripture, end up by osmossis adopting as their own erroneous means of thinking these things through - if it doesn't fit make it symbolic.

His every assertion on here is that premise, always.

Inter, you really need to put your books away, and start over. I sincerely believe this, though I know it will fall on deaf years...
 
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Judaism replaced the promise with the law, as evidenced by the issue Paul has to address in Gal 3:17. There never was a promise that did not include all nations, by faith. It is the same promise as Gen 3:15, aka the "protoevangelium."

You have to check some books, otherwise you'd never know that Ps 23's water line should read:

he leads me past toxic/brackish water

not:

he leads me beside still water.

You might think still water is a good thing. You have to read some back ground.
 
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Judaism replaced the promise with the law, as evidenced by the issue Paul has to address in Gal 3:17. There never was a promise that did not include all nations, by faith. It is the same promise as Gen 3:15, aka the "protoevangelium."

You have to check some books, otherwise you'd never know that Ps 23's water line should read:

he leads me past toxic/brackish water

not:

he leads me beside still water.

You might think still water is a good thing. You have to read some back ground.

No use of Scripture!

What are you trying to teach people?

If you never have any scripture, then how can you teach the truth of the bible to anyone.


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So Gal 3:17 and Gen 3:15 are not scripture? Since when? Get off your self-appointed pedestal.

Those are scripture tags, not scripture.

Jesus quoted scripture, not scripture tags.

By making comments then adding a scripture tag you are assuming what you are saying is equal to scripture, when in reality all you are doing is regurgitating the commentary of those you study.



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