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Daniel 11

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by greekgal, Oct 2, 2002.

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  1. LastDazed

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    I sure do hate to win a debate by default but,
    it still goes into the "W" column.

    :clap:

    If you don't like the rules, You can take your ball and go home.
     
  2. Brian45

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                                                   :D
     
  3. rollinTHUNDER

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    The poor guy looks hungry. Maybe you guys can feed him some spiritual food?? :p Maybe some strong meat, after an appitizer of course, and after we clean up the spilt milk. ;)
     
  4. Brian45

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    Yes rollin , he is hungry , he told me he wants to eat preterists for breakfast but I told him that's not nice and that they don't taste good and that he should find something  more worthy to eat .      :)
     
  5. rollinTHUNDER

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    Did he say that he would also spew them out of his mouth?? :eek:
     
  6. Brian45

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    He ate a preterist once and got very ill ,  he told me he began to have delusions of grandure and that he began to believe that all future prophecies of the bible related to the past  (  poor fellow  )

    I nursed him back to good health which is why you see him grinning , he now knows he has hope for the future and awaits the return of jesus christ .

    I asked him why he wanted to eat more preterists and he told me that if he ate them all then no one else would get sick .
     
  7. JereReagan

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    King of the North is the nation of 10 united countries.. here a little there a little you have to go through many books of the bible to tie in biblical prophecy.. You have to follow the blessings of the tribes of israel then tie them to life today, Such as Ephriam and Manasseh being the United States and Britian. Dan being denmark and much more.. You can look at the blessings and see how they tie in to life today. Thats the major key to understanding prophecy (just thought I would throw that out there.)

    Now when you see the King of The North thats refering to Europe, a United States of Europe so to speak. Now under 1 currency, soon to be 1 language and religion. (Roman Catholic, since these nations have a little horn that pops up on the head) Powered by the Roman Catholic church.


    More info when I'm not so tired.
     
  8. ladylove

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    Jere,

    You have been reading waaaaay to many Hal Lindsey books. He is not accurate and a sensationlist. Go back and read your bible. He is on the same scale as Jack Van Impe. Don't believe any of these chicken littles...
     
  9. JereReagan

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    reading to many books? I just started reading the Bible. How confusing can It be... Ephriam Manasseh, United States and Britian, 2 most powerful nations for roughly 300 years. Take a look at the commodities market, the 2 most powerful currencies are? British Pound, US Dollar. hmmmmm... Theres roughly 30 more proof of the country you live in today being Manasseh, and GB being Ephriam.. I think its you who hasnt been reading enough :-\

    Jere
     
  10. ladylove

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    Well Jere,

    I am afraid England and the USA won't be the "powerhouses" when the end is near we will be included in the anti-christ's armies some way or another against Israel, sad to say. The Bible is not specific about the USA so therefore, we could conclude that we are against Israel when the time comes. :(

    But then if you are a new Christian, it is understandable. Prophecy tho' is not where you should be starting, IMO. In fact, you should be learning the basics of the Christian faith. Once you understand them, then you should be learning other things. Best wishes.
     
  11. Frank

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    Wow, could this possibly be because the USA did not exist in the historical context of the book of Revelation?
     
  12. ladylove

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    Frank,

    You need to understand the WHOLE world is against Israel. So at the time of the end all standing armies will be under the control of anti-christ. Who knows the USA is a very young nation, a little over 200 years old. We may not even be around at the time the anti-christ comes to power. But regardless, the world will fight against Israel and the Lord. It is written.
     
  13. Frank

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    Really?  Guess what?  2,000 years ago, THE WHOLE WORLD, was already against Israel.  People from almost every country under heaven gathered together and destroyed Jerusalem to the ground.

     
     
  14. ladylove

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    Sorry, you missed a small detail. It was the "known" world back then. Next time it will be the whole world. Just thought you should know. :)
     
  15. rollinTHUNDER

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    Frank,
    Don't you mean Titus and the Roman armies?? This was just a shadow of the reality to come. You can easily see from the scriptures that God has only hardened the heart of Israel so that He could make a way for us Gentile believers. Once He has received all of His Gentiles, He will then turn His eyes back on Israel. Judgment is coming to unbelieving Israel, but a remnant will surely be saved, and through that remnant, ALL Israel will be saved. You must remember that God made an everlasting covenant with Abraham. That means forever.

    Romans 11:25 - "I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited; Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in."

    Is God finished with the Gentiles?? By no means.
     
  16. 66books

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    greetings brothers and sisters in his name.
    i am new to this site and so far find discussion interesting .
    may i say in regards to the king of the north has always been assyria
    in the scriptures.the prophecy of destruction of damascus is yet to be
    fulfilled .i believe this legitimizes syria in the end game of earth.
    the story of abraham isaac and ishmael concludes the regional mid east
    situation from an economic socio stance.
    hagar the egyptian bore ishmael out of wedlock.cursed to fight his brothers.blessed as father of nations and his lands producing wealth.
    (he fights amongst his own ,they are 1.2 billion ,oil.)
    ishmael was jealous of isaacs inheritance and the family were killing each
    other over it.
    the king of the south has always been egypt.
    looking at daniel in a future context as specified by gabriel more than once
    (told more than once in bible is an assurity it will happen).i anticipate a
    conflict between syria and egypt being a family disput over inheritance.
    reasons are as follows .
    eliezer (syrian master slave) stood to inherite if abraham and sarah had no children.this was tradition back then.he missed out on the inheritance.
    ishmael (egyptian blood)was outside the marriage but was first born.
    geneology is based on the mothers lineage but i cannot be sure if it
    applied back then .
    isaac(legite child) sanctioned)and blessed by god .disqualifies eliezer and
    ishmael of their inheritance.
    this concept could well fit daniel 11 ,any input would be appreciated.

    bic
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  17. Brian45

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    Hi 66 books , and welcome to this forum , I do remember that you helped me out once , thank you .

    You mention Assyria , please check out this link to the modern day Assyrians , what I find amazing is there religion .
    I'm not sure what to make of this myself :

     

    http://www.aina.org/aol/
     
  18. Prophecy Countdown

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    Hi there 66Books Daniel and Revelation are so interesting. Isn't it nice not having Preterists drive us mad with historic events and then applying them to the "end time' prophecies, how refreshing 66Books, Take care, love to you and the girls.
    Maranatha.
    Prophecy Countdown.
     
  19. 66books

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    greetings brian45,prophecycountdown.
    great site on assyria ,many thanks brian45 and we have crossed paths
    before on other forums.countdown i think this site stays true to definition
    of eschatology ,no preterist retoric and a good place to focus on our lords
    return and the signs to watch for in the bible .
    i look forward to your study on daniel ,revelation,minor prophets.
    i pray the holy spirit will guide all to greater understanding as promised
    in these last days.my wife is three days overdue and the girls are fine.
    bic
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  20. Prophecy Countdown

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    Greetings 66Books 3 days overdue. I hope and pray with you dear mum that all goes well with Tess. We are thinking of you always. Give our love to Tess and the girls I will post Daniel 5, 6, and 7 on "Understanding Daniel and Revelation" thread.
    In our Lord's name we pray.
    Prophecy Countdown.
     
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