Looking at what my Charismatic/Pentecostal/Wof Brothers and Sisters view is on the Dakes Doctrine of the Hypostatic Union. I've seen it used more in WoF circles then Pentecostal.
Dakes doctrine -
From Dakes Bible Page 218 - Summary of Philippians
The "kenosis" of Christ
Gr. kenoo, to empty out, drain. It is trans. make void (Rom 4:14; 1 Cor 9:15); make none effect (1 Cor 1:17) be in vain (2 Cor 9:3); and make of no reputation or emptied Himself (Phil 2:7)
Of what did Christ empty Himself?
It could not have been His divine nature, for He was God not only from all eternity (Mic 5:1-2; Jn 1:1-2; Heb 1:8; Rev 1:8-11) but God manifest in flesh during His life on earth (Isa 7:14;9:6-7; Mt 1:18-25; Jn 1:1-2; 14; 1 Tim 3:16)
Christ emptied Himself of:
1. Equality with God (Phil 2:6-7; Jn 14:28; 1 Cor 11:3)
2. God-form or God-body, the spirit body that he lived in from eternity to take human-form (Phil 2:6- 8; 3:21; Mt 1:18-25; Lk 1:35; Jn 1:14; Lk 24:37-40; Zech 13:6; Gal 4:4; Rom 8:3)
3. Immortality of body (1 Cor 15:3; Ps 16:10; 1 Pet 2:24; 3:18)
4. The glory that He had with the Father before the world was (Jn 12:23; 17:15; Mt 16:27; Phil 2:5-11)
5. His authority in heaven and in earth, which was given back to Him after resurrection (Mt 28:18; Phil 2:9-11; Eph 1:20-23; 1 Pet 3:22)
6. His divine attributes and outward powers that He had with the Father from eternity. He had no power to do miracles until He received the Holy Spirit in all fullness (Jn 2:11;2:34; Isa 11:1-2; 42:1-7; 61:1-2; Lk 3:21-22; 4:16-21; Mt 12:28; Acts 10:38). He could do nothing of Himself in all his earthly life. He attributed all His works, doctrines, powers, etc. to the Father through the anointing of the Holy Spirit (note r. Jn 8:28). This is proved by the following facts in Scripture.
(1) He was limited to the status of a man (Phil 2:6-8; Heb 2:14-18; 5:8-9)
(2) He was God's agent using God's power of attorney (note r, Jn. 8:28;Acts10:38)
(3) He was our example that we should walk in His steps (1 Peter 2:21)
(4) The temptations prove that He was limited as a man so that He could overcome as a man and not as God (Heb 4:14-16; 5:7-9)
(5) Isaiah (7:14-16) speaks of the Messiah being born without knowledge enough to know to refuse the evil and choose the good
(6) Isaiah (11:2; 53:1-12) speaks of the Messiah being limited as an ordinary baby, showing that God would give Him the spirit of wisdom, understanding, counsel, might, knowledge, and fear of the Lord. If He had these attributes as God from all the eternity and did not lay them aside in becoming man when was this ever true of him?
(7) Isaiah (50:4-11) predicted that the Messiah would be born without the tongue of the learned without knowing how to speak a word in season to help any soul, and that He would be wakened day by day to increase in knowledge and wisdom.
(8) Isaiah (42:1-7; 61:1-2) speaks of the Messiah receiving his power to manifest divine acts by the anointing of the Holy Spirit and not be retaining His power former natural attributes and powers. If it became necessary to anoint Jesus during His earthly life, then it proves He did not retain His former glory and attributes which He had from all eternity when he emptied Himself to become like men in all things (Phil 2:6-8; Heb 2:14-18 5:8-9)
(9) History records that Christ was limited as a baby and grew in body, soul, spirit (mind, 1 Cor 2:11) grace, wisdom, stature, and favor with God and man (Lk 2:40,52) Even after his manhood. His full anointing and gifts of the Spirit He was still limited in knowledge (Mk 13:32) He even learned obedience by the things He suffered (Heb 4:14-16; 5:7-9)
(10) He did not claim the attributes of God, but only the anointing of the Spirit to do his works (note r, Jn 8:28 Mt 12:28; Lk 4:16-21). Others stated this was the source of His power(Jn 3:34; Acts 10:38). Most scriptures used in doctrine books proving that Christ had divine attributes on earth are statements true of Him since his glory has been restored and do not prove anything during His life earth. All scriptures related to His earthly life can be explained as referring to the exercise of the gifts of the Spirit and not natural attributes.
(11) The fact that Christ promised all believers power to do the works He did proves that it was through the anointing of the Spirit, not by his deity and natural attributes, that He did His works (Mt 10:1-20; 16:18; 18:18; Lk 10; 24:49; Mk 16:15-20; Jn 14:12-15; Acts 1:4-8)
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What is everyone's view on the the Dake Hypostatic Union and your own?
NOTICE: If you have nothing but garbage to throw at this thread please leave it alone. Looking for a discussion not a bunch of heresy hunters.
Also; please excuse any miss spellings above. I don't have Dakes on CD so I had to type the above from my Dakes Bible.
Looking forward to hearing from everyone!
TSM
Dakes doctrine -
From Dakes Bible Page 218 - Summary of Philippians
The "kenosis" of Christ
Gr. kenoo, to empty out, drain. It is trans. make void (Rom 4:14; 1 Cor 9:15); make none effect (1 Cor 1:17) be in vain (2 Cor 9:3); and make of no reputation or emptied Himself (Phil 2:7)
Of what did Christ empty Himself?
It could not have been His divine nature, for He was God not only from all eternity (Mic 5:1-2; Jn 1:1-2; Heb 1:8; Rev 1:8-11) but God manifest in flesh during His life on earth (Isa 7:14;9:6-7; Mt 1:18-25; Jn 1:1-2; 14; 1 Tim 3:16)
Christ emptied Himself of:
1. Equality with God (Phil 2:6-7; Jn 14:28; 1 Cor 11:3)
2. God-form or God-body, the spirit body that he lived in from eternity to take human-form (Phil 2:6- 8; 3:21; Mt 1:18-25; Lk 1:35; Jn 1:14; Lk 24:37-40; Zech 13:6; Gal 4:4; Rom 8:3)
3. Immortality of body (1 Cor 15:3; Ps 16:10; 1 Pet 2:24; 3:18)
4. The glory that He had with the Father before the world was (Jn 12:23; 17:15; Mt 16:27; Phil 2:5-11)
5. His authority in heaven and in earth, which was given back to Him after resurrection (Mt 28:18; Phil 2:9-11; Eph 1:20-23; 1 Pet 3:22)
6. His divine attributes and outward powers that He had with the Father from eternity. He had no power to do miracles until He received the Holy Spirit in all fullness (Jn 2:11;2:34; Isa 11:1-2; 42:1-7; 61:1-2; Lk 3:21-22; 4:16-21; Mt 12:28; Acts 10:38). He could do nothing of Himself in all his earthly life. He attributed all His works, doctrines, powers, etc. to the Father through the anointing of the Holy Spirit (note r. Jn 8:28). This is proved by the following facts in Scripture.
(1) He was limited to the status of a man (Phil 2:6-8; Heb 2:14-18; 5:8-9)
(2) He was God's agent using God's power of attorney (note r, Jn. 8:28;Acts10:38)
(3) He was our example that we should walk in His steps (1 Peter 2:21)
(4) The temptations prove that He was limited as a man so that He could overcome as a man and not as God (Heb 4:14-16; 5:7-9)
(5) Isaiah (7:14-16) speaks of the Messiah being born without knowledge enough to know to refuse the evil and choose the good
(6) Isaiah (11:2; 53:1-12) speaks of the Messiah being limited as an ordinary baby, showing that God would give Him the spirit of wisdom, understanding, counsel, might, knowledge, and fear of the Lord. If He had these attributes as God from all the eternity and did not lay them aside in becoming man when was this ever true of him?
(7) Isaiah (50:4-11) predicted that the Messiah would be born without the tongue of the learned without knowing how to speak a word in season to help any soul, and that He would be wakened day by day to increase in knowledge and wisdom.
(8) Isaiah (42:1-7; 61:1-2) speaks of the Messiah receiving his power to manifest divine acts by the anointing of the Holy Spirit and not be retaining His power former natural attributes and powers. If it became necessary to anoint Jesus during His earthly life, then it proves He did not retain His former glory and attributes which He had from all eternity when he emptied Himself to become like men in all things (Phil 2:6-8; Heb 2:14-18 5:8-9)
(9) History records that Christ was limited as a baby and grew in body, soul, spirit (mind, 1 Cor 2:11) grace, wisdom, stature, and favor with God and man (Lk 2:40,52) Even after his manhood. His full anointing and gifts of the Spirit He was still limited in knowledge (Mk 13:32) He even learned obedience by the things He suffered (Heb 4:14-16; 5:7-9)
(10) He did not claim the attributes of God, but only the anointing of the Spirit to do his works (note r, Jn 8:28 Mt 12:28; Lk 4:16-21). Others stated this was the source of His power(Jn 3:34; Acts 10:38). Most scriptures used in doctrine books proving that Christ had divine attributes on earth are statements true of Him since his glory has been restored and do not prove anything during His life earth. All scriptures related to His earthly life can be explained as referring to the exercise of the gifts of the Spirit and not natural attributes.
(11) The fact that Christ promised all believers power to do the works He did proves that it was through the anointing of the Spirit, not by his deity and natural attributes, that He did His works (Mt 10:1-20; 16:18; 18:18; Lk 10; 24:49; Mk 16:15-20; Jn 14:12-15; Acts 1:4-8)
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What is everyone's view on the the Dake Hypostatic Union and your own?
NOTICE: If you have nothing but garbage to throw at this thread please leave it alone. Looking for a discussion not a bunch of heresy hunters.
Also; please excuse any miss spellings above. I don't have Dakes on CD so I had to type the above from my Dakes Bible.
Looking forward to hearing from everyone!
TSM
