PsychoSarah
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So this can be symbolic or an allegory, but the rest can't -_- why?
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This passage you can use as symbolism. Snake is a description of the way Satan is. Jesus is the Lamb of God, right? But He isn't a lamb, as far as I can tell.
So it really wasn't an animal that was talking to Eve. It was Satan who really appeared to her. He is also described as a Dragon in Révélations and a beast. However he is an angelic being, but an evil one.
Yes!!! Exactly! So there is no definite 'it never happened'. There IS evidence but on top of this we have confusing evidence showing that the Flood does not make sense.
However, there is also evidence which must be ignored or dismissed because it should not be there if the Flood had occurred.
This passage you can use as symbolism. Snake is a description of the way Satan is. Jesus is the Lamb of God, right? But He isn't a lamb, as far as I can tell.
So it really wasn't an animal that was talking to Eve. It was Satan who really appeared to her. He is also described as a Dragon in Révélations and a beast. However he is an angelic being, but an evil one.
Yes!!! Exactly! So there is no definite 'it never happened'. There IS evidence but on top of this we have confusing evidence showing that the Flood does not make sense.
The bible is a big book, not every detail needs to be in Genesis. From other books, we can pin the name tail on the donkey.So, why doesn't Genesis explicitly say that it was Satan, rather than confusing the issue with a symbolic representation of Satan?
That is silly. grasping at some straw to pretend the bible prophesied something is unrelated to actual prophesy.I find that the prophecies rely on vagueness and aren't used to predict events before they happen. Instead they are interpreted after an event to provide justification that Christians "knew that would happen!" It's like how people claim Nostradamus predicted 9/11 or any other event.
Take this derail about Chernobyl in the Bible for example. A poster claims that the Bible predicted the nuclear incident in Chernobyl.
I respond by wondering why nobody that read the Bible tried to evacuate Chernobyl or alert the world about what would happen. What use is a prediction that doesn't predict something before it happens?
This passage you can use as symbolism. Snake is a description of the way Satan is.
Since Tyre as was pointed out is going to be here in the end, the final fulfilment is yet to come.And back to Tyre. Yes, Tyre was attacked many times over the years. But it was a target before the prophecy. Since it was going to get attacked anyway that means the pose Nebby attacks are not valid.
And even if they were valid, which they clearly aren't, the prophecy still has not been fulfilled. The island was never to be found again. It was never to be built upon again. It has been rebuilt and I showed it to you on a map. The prophecy failed.
Lastly you need to look at who the prophecy was aimed at. It was clearly aimed at the people of Tyre at that time. Ezekiel want to put the fear of God into those people. Since the prophecy failed, and even Ezekiel admitted as much, those people were not too impressed.
It sure did.Not when it talks about a global Flood; that never happened.
So that tells me this organization is not of God.Marx never expected to live long enough to see religion die out.
I don't mind that you don't fault the religion itself for the violence, people would have likely found another excuse to kill each other, but the church organization did encourage the violence and fan the flames.
One must comprehend that if Tyre is here when the end is near, that failing prophesy is nothing to fear.Yes, I would.
You are lowering the value of all Old Testament prophesies.
The Tyre prophesy was meant to affect the people at the time it was given. It is still a terribly failed prophesy and even Ezekiel new it.
Pulling a verse that just happens to mention the obviously still existing Tyre has nothing to do with the original failed prophesy.
So this can be symbolic or an allegory, but the rest can't -_- why?
So, why doesn't Genesis explicitly say that it was Satan, rather than confusing the issue with a symbolic representation of Satan?
So you choose to disregard any evidence which contradicts your predetermined conclusion.
I suppose if a serpent was possessed by Satan causing the fall of man, he could get associated for more than one reason.
It is best to study the way parts of passages are written. You can compare different accounts such as the Songs of Solomon, Proverbs, and the Parables to see how they are very different in the way they are written compared to Genesis.
In the way it is written. Such as in the first chapter is repeats "God said.." and "It was good" several times showing the importance of what happened.
It is best to study the way parts of passages are written. You can compare different accounts such as the Songs of Solomon, Proverbs, and the Parables to see how they are very different in the way they are written compared to Genesis.
I mean that Satan was in the creature (serpent) and spoke to Eve. So if we call him the ol serpent, that would be more than just a casual description. The serpent never used to be a snake, or crawl on the ground, that was a curse, I assume that the creature had for allowing itself to be possessed. No?What do you mean? ...
I mean that Satan was in the creature (serpent) and spoke to Eve. So if we call him the ol serpent, that would be more than just a casual description. The serpent never used to be a snake, or crawl on the ground, that was a curse, I assume that the creature had for allowing itself to be possessed. No?
Right, the serpent only ate dust, as it were, after it was cursed. More evidence of rapid evolution in actionPerhaps, it makes more sense that way, obviously crawling on the ground isn't a punishment to a snake, which already does that.
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