Curious how many Democrats agree with these actions?

I support their taking down American flag - raising Mexican flag

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 36.4%
  • No

    Votes: 7 63.6%

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Shiloh Raven

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It probably should be noted that America became a great nation precisely when we did have open borders.

Until the late 1800s, there were no immigration restrictions.

Yes, a great nation for WASP men, but not so much for minorities or the Irish or women.
 
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About the open border policies, Its right in front of you and you either refuse to or cant see it. Amazing.

So doesn't anything worry you about left wing politics and the Christian faith?
Such as their LGBTQ and abortion policies, which is perversion, demonic and against Christ.
Big federal government, antifa, The green new deal. free college, free health care, free everything? the anti free markets, anti capitalist, anti private ownership, central planning for everything, and anti free speech? As in anything that is anti socialist is hate speech.
Perhaps your more socialist democrat than anything else.

Democratic socialism - Wikipedia
 
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About the open border policies, Its right in front of you and you either refuse to or cant see it. Amazing.

Ten out of ten democrat candidates say they want undocumented entry to be against the law, and you think that's an endorsement for returning to the open borders we had in the 1800s? How so?

So doesn't anything worry you about left wing politics and the Christian faith?

What's wrong with being Christian? And the right seems to be a much bigger threat to liberty than the left has ever been in America.

Such as their LGBTQ

It's not the government's place to approve or disapprove of those things.

and abortion policies,

We have one of the most right-wing Supreme Courts in history, and they don't see fit to end it. The republicans had control of all three wings of the government and did nothing about it. Do you think people don't know that?

Big federal government, antifa, The green new deal. free college, free health care, free everything?

Nothing is free. As Bernie pointed out, nations with national health care still pay for it. They just pay a lot less than we do. And most of them have better care than we do.

the anti free markets, anti capitalist, anti private ownership, central planning for everything, and anti free speech? As in anything that is anti socialist is hate speech.

I notice what Obama did during his administration looks nothing like that. So I'm pretty sure the hysteria isn't a rational assessment.

Calm yourself. And take a little time to think.
 
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Ten out of ten democrat candidates say they want undocumented entry to be against the law, and you think that's an endorsement for returning to the open borders we had in the 1800s? How so?



What's wrong with being Christian? And the right seems to be a much bigger threat to liberty than the left has ever been in America.



It's not the government's place to approve or disapprove of those things.



We have one of the most right-wing Supreme Courts in history, and they don't see fit to end it. The republicans had control of all three wings of the government and did nothing about it. Do you think people don't know that?



Nothing is free. As Bernie pointed out, nations with national health care still pay for it. They just pay a lot less than we do. And most of them have better care than we do.



I notice what Obama did during his administration looks nothing like that. So I'm pretty sure the hysteria isn't a rational assessment.

Calm yourself. And take a little time to think.
Your nullifying personal responsibility to God, by abrogating that to the state.
The prophets of ancient days spoke out against the evils of their day into their societies and often times paid for it with their blood, would you also speak up for the Lord?
 
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Your nullifying personal responsibility to God, by abrogating that to the state.

I'm the one pointing out that it's not the state's place to concern itself with sin. And you might want to look up "abrogate." It doesn't mean what you seem to think it does. Your sentence would make sense if you used "arrogate." Is that what you meant?

The prophets of ancient days spoke out against the evils of their day into their societies and often times paid for it with their blood

Which was their place. Not that of the government. When government decides to make us good, it always (as James Madison remarked) leads to corruption and horror.

If you fail to speak up for the Lord, do not expect the state to do it for you.
 
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Hi MM,

You made the claim:
I know that very few republicans and probably few independents would not agree with what these ones have done in this video.

You do realize that what your saying is that independents and republicans do agree with the raising of the Mexican flag over the American flag...right?

I'm going to assume that your subconscious mind made you write your query in this way.

God bless,
In Christ, ted
 
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Meh. While I sort of agree that they shouldn't have removed the flag, it's sort of a non-issue in the long run. To be honest, I'm more concerned that the facility had a Blue Lives Matter flag flying. No government facility should be displaying a flag associated with a particular political movement, and yes I think that applies to the rainbow flag as well, even if it's not the same thing.

In Ohio, during a gay pride parade a rainbow flag was raised at the state Capitol for the event. A Christan man who believes homosexuality is a sin took it down. He was taken to court for it and Governor Bob Taft subsequently signed an executive order that only American and Ohio flags can fly on Statehouse grounds. I never liked Taft, who is a Republican, but totally agreed with that decision.
 
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In Ohio, during a gay pride parade a rainbow flag was raised at the state Capitol for the event. A Christan man who believes homosexuality is a sin took it down. He was taken to court for it and Governor Bob Taft subsequently signed an executive order that only American and Ohio flags can fly on Statehouse grounds. I never liked Taft, who is a Republican, but totally agreed with that decision.

It's really the only American solution.
 
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Being a cop is something somebody chooses to do. Being LGBT is not. And Blue Lives Matter only became a thing in response to Black Lives Matter.

True, but LGBT Americans can't be easy targets like police because they don't wear uniforms to let everyone know who is or is not in their demographic.
 
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They did for attention, and they got it. Most of the immigrants in question aren't from Mexico anyway. They are from other countries within that region. Notice they didn't fly that flag to represent them. LOL Do what you will with that reality.

So why did people choose to fly the Mexican flag to get the attention they wanted? They had to know that there are appropriate ways to protest the lack or loss of human rights and just because the Constitution's First Amendment gives them the freedom to fly a foreign nation's flag does not mean that behavior would be socially acceptable.

Going onto government property and defacing things is dumb, unless you are ready to face the legal consequences. It was a show of disrespect, and yes it does show as they complain about the administration's behavior their behavior isn't any better. That's why most don't take them seriously. You don't have to be on one side or the other in regards to that fact.

Even if they are ready to face the legal consequences it is dumb. If someone is protesting laws, he knows what they are. So it makes no sense to me that someone would protest the laws by flying a Mexican flag. Do they not know the laws and just protest mistreatment of immigrants? If so, they are not educated.

If people were truly serious about fixing this issue? They would stop with the name calling, and the 'us against them' stuff and demand solutions. The media and politicians have everyone so wound up, and they are using it to their advantage, and you can clearly see who the ones that 'don't care' really are. You don't complain about it, and stir up the drama...and then sit on your hands. Congress is the ones that make the laws to fix this, and until they are good and ready to do something? This will continue, and you have to ask yourself what advantage it is for them to do just that. They aren't helpless, and their hands aren't tied.

The Columbus Zoo and Aquarium in Ohio has this quote painted on a building's interior wall:

"The man who made the greatest mistake is the one who did nothing because he could do so little."
 
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Given the general apathy of the left over this event, I suspect they don't really care. I mean, no nations, no borders seems to be the dominating meme of the democratic party at the moment.

This isn't a good thing if you want the USA to remain intact btw. If it doesn't bother you see a foreign flag raised in the place of your own country's flag, then it would not be wrong to suggest you don't believe in the idea of the country in the first place.
 
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About the open border policies, Its right in front of you and you either refuse to or cant see it. Amazing.

So doesn't anything worry you about left wing politics and the Christian faith?
Such as their LGBTQ and abortion policies, which is perversion, demonic and against Christ.
Big federal government, antifa, The green new deal. free college, free health care, free everything? the anti free markets, anti capitalist, anti private ownership, central planning for everything, and anti free speech? As in anything that is anti socialist is hate speech.
Perhaps your more socialist democrat than anything else.

Would you care to explain how free everything is against Christianity?

God told King Solomon, "Ask Me for anything, and I will give it to you." Or something like that.
Jesus said, "Ask and you will receive. Knock and the door will be opened to you."

All Christians know when God gives them things, they are not paid for. Shouldn't that translate to getting free health care and education, which also help people live God's purposes for them and maybe get jobs?

God also says to "love your enemies" and the second commandement given by Jesus is to "love your neighbor as yourself." He also says to "love the sinner, not the sin," right? So why shouldn't Christians fully support lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people?
 
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