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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
Crosses on the Side of the Road
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Neverstop said:
How so? What part of the Constitution says that the government cannot honor someone's religious wishes?
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Yusuf Evans
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Neverstop said:
Sorry brother, but as a former member of the armed forces, don't you know that there are chapels on government property? It's endorsement of religion, albeit not a specific one, but religion none the less.
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christianmarine said:
I've often questioned the validity of those as well. On the one hand, they make sense because troops have different religious backgrounds, though most are Chrstian of some sort. The chapels and chaplains are there because of the nomadic environment of military life.
It is an endorsement of religion, and as such, it does violate the Constitution. It's one of those things that is very tricky.
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Neverstop said:
You haven't answered the question.
How does the government's acknowledgement of religion or respecting a citizens religious wishes equal establishing a religion?
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Yusuf Evans
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Neverstop said:
In all honesty brother, you are the only that has openly questioned that here on the forum. I have brought that up against others on this site that cry about Christian symbolism, yet their tax dollars support chaplains of all religions. Gotta say, reps to you man. We disagree on this, but at least you've got some fortitude.
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Neverstop said:
How has Christianity been established at Arlington National Cemetary?
I didn't say that they would but it's still traditional to mark someone's grave with the appropriate religious symbols and it is a sign of respect to that person for the service that they've given that the government marks their grave with such.
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12volt_man said:
Maybe some do not understand what is meant by the "establishment of religion." It does not mean priests have to be there...
Here in Boston, there are the Granary Burial grounds...these date back a few hundred years...completely Christian communities...know how many crosses mark graves? ZERO....wonder why? Surely it's a cultural thing, but it's interesting.
How many graves has the US government marked that are non-Christian but religious nonetheless?
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Neverstop said:
OK. Just to clear up the confusion, why don't you take a minute to explain to us what is meant by the "establishment of religion" as it appears in the 1st Amendment?
Walk through any veterans cemetary and you will also see grave markers that honor that person's Judaism, Islam, and other beliefs, or no beliefs at all.
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Neverstop said:
I could tell by your statement. Take a walk through some time. Look specifically at the gravestones.
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Neverstop said:
OK. Where is the state religion and what laws are being passed?
How can a state pass a law concerning Arlington when Washington DC isn't in a state and when Arlington is federal property?
And you will see the same at Arlington.
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TScott
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A soldier's dogtags state his or her religion. That info is given by the soldier. Here is a picture that illustrates this:
You will note that in the picture that a vast majority of the markers denote the fallen was a Christian, but near the center of the picture you can see the marker denoting a Jewish soldier. This picture is of the cemetery in Normandy France. I doubt if they have too many protests over the markers on these graves, because based on the information on the dogtags of these soldiers these are the markers they wanted.
You will note that in the picture that a vast majority of the markers denote the fallen was a Christian, but near the center of the picture you can see the marker denoting a Jewish soldier. This picture is of the cemetery in Normandy France. I doubt if they have too many protests over the markers on these graves, because based on the information on the dogtags of these soldiers these are the markers they wanted.
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