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Yes I know. Your lack of desire to actually figure out at least roughly what the people you converse with on a daily basis believe and don't believe demonstrates a lack of respect.I'm not going to make a Johari window of who says/doesn't say // believes/doesn't believe what.
No instead you group me in with "you guys" and attribute actions and beliefs to me that I don't hold.Instead, I use the term 'you guys' and let that subset of posters -- who know who they are -- respond.
No, I don't. I don't have any idea of what non-human intelligent design would look like.Actually you ask for evidence for intelligent design.
I never had any doubt that if a god exists in the form that Christians imagine it does, it could do all the things they say it can do.You were shown that the property of intelligence is capable.
Mmm... no it's not. You don't even need to know how the process works to show that it has happened.It is a possibility for you, it is an actuality based on the evidence for me. Even if you were to show that Darwinan evolution is capable, under the conditions, of creating man, people migrate to Darwinian evolution based on the faith that that possibility was an actuality in the past. If I asked you for evidence for Darwinian evolution, then you would go to a lab and show how said process works. In fact that's how all evidence for Darwinian evolution is advanced and countered.
If you're going to pick and choose the evidence you accept, then you're being dishonest with yourself. I'm not going to do that regardless of which direction it takes me, after all what would be the point in me denying a Creator if it was the truth? I don't stand to gain anything from believing the wrong thing.If someone denies it, then it is their own choice, which is what I'm saying to you in regards to intelligent design.
Even though I don't believe that it's possible to entirely remove faith from any situation? Could you do me a favour and let me tell you what I'm thinking instead of making something up yourself?Actually that's precisely what you're asking for.
I'm asking if you think the Great Pyramid was built by God. Surely if intelligent design leaves enough evidence to ascertain the presence of intelligent design, that evidence can give us some kind of indication as to who that intelligence was.Intelligent design does not address who the designer is (this could indeed be a very long thread).
Right. And intelligence is the property capable of assembling man. Why do you think I have to chase you around? Here's a little exercise you can carry out. In this scenario the mechanism behind Darwinian evolution has been shown capable of building man for which there is no refutation. People still choose to reject the faith that it did happen this way in the past. Do youI never had any doubt that if a god exists in the form that Christians imagine it does, it could do all the things they say it can do.
We've refuted. That's what this forum is for.If you're going to pick and choose the evidence you accept, then you're being dishonest with yourself.
If you have the data then present it.I acknowledge that an intelligent designer could have assembled man, but am I supposed to ignore the evidence that suggests that isn't what actually happened?
And... how do you know this?Jesus didn't lie, the people who wrote the bible lied about Jesus.
He doesn't -- but like any good Internet scientist, one can make comments as if they were there themselves.And... how do you know this?
And... how do you know this?
Because you gu... they think Jesus was a liar, so, by association, they must think we're liars as well.
And... how do you know this?
It's not an exercise, that's what's happening every day.Right. And intelligence is the property capable of assembling man. Why do you think I have to chase you around? Here's a little exercise you can carry out. In this scenario the mechanism behind Darwinian evolution has been shown capable of building man for which there is no refutation. People still choose to reject the faith that it did happen this way in the past.
Evaded and denied, yes. Refuted, no.We've refuted. That's what this forum is for.
You know that the evidence is there, and where to find it, people here are continually trying to point you in the right direction. It seems to me that you'll continue misrepresenting or ignoring the evidence contrary to your position, but I'd gladly be proven wrong.If you have the data then present it.
They know that the Bible is not a science textbook. People should stop trying to use it as such.
You can be glad it's not a science textbook. They change all the time. PTL that the Bible's account of things can still be trusted after 6,000 years!
Prove it.There were not people for millions of years before Adam and Eve.
There were not people for millions of years before Adam and Eve. Christ stated, "from the beginning of creation God made them male and female."
Definitely a few frauds. Nobody will ever deny that. Weirdly enough scientists are the ones that revealed those frauds. So the system is self-correcting. I fail to see the problem here.If Christ's authority is not enough, consider the "transitional forms" that have been discarded in history past. It appears that evolutionary dogma requires careless data presentation in order to survive. I would specifically list Piltdown man and Nebraska man, the latter of which was only the tooth of a pig! Neanderthal man does little for the case of evolution, in light of the fact that there is now evidence that they buried their dead and enjoyed music. This is only beginning to delve into the twists and turns that have been committed in digging up humanity's supposed pre-human past.
Creationists have a right to be left wondering just why so much debating is necessary among evolutionists when the evidence is supposedly so clear.
Ah but you can't do that. Remember, pi= 3I did not say "millions". So dont correct on something i did not say.
The earliest use of fire goes back 750,000 years.
Actually we see as depicted. Darwinian evolution isn't viable.So if your god did make the earth and its inhabitants, he made it a very different way
According to you it is.And Pi still does not equal three.
No single horned animals exist? By the way you need to specify if the reference is to a purely physical construct or an organism not yet manifesting as 3 dimensional. Creation descends from a higher state. That same way a shape becomes an object which becomes a cast model.No unicorns,
Actually, the data shows the flood event.no flood either.
You do realize that many of those were never heralded as evidence. No, its creationist that keep the myth alive. congratulations. If you read up on them you would know that.If Christ's authority is not enough, consider the "transitional forms" that have been discarded in history past. It appears that evolutionary dogma requires careless data presentation in order to survive. I would specifically list Piltdown man and Nebraska man, the latter of which was only the tooth of a pig! Neanderthal man does little for the case of evolution, in light of the fact that there is now evidence that they buried their dead and enjoyed music. This is only beginning to delve into the twists and turns that have been committed in digging up humanity's supposed pre-human past. Creationists have a right to be left wondering just why so much debating is necessary among evolutionists when the evidence is supposedly so clear.
If Christ's authority is not enough, consider the "transitional forms" that have been discarded in history past. It appears that evolutionary dogma requires careless data presentation in order to survive. I would specifically list Piltdown man and Nebraska man, the latter of which was only the tooth of a pig! Neanderthal man does little for the case of evolution, in light of the fact that there is now evidence that they buried their dead and enjoyed music. This is only beginning to delve into the twists and turns that have been committed in digging up humanity's supposed pre-human past. Creationists have a right to be left wondering just why so much debating is necessary among evolutionists when the evidence is supposedly so clear.
consider the "transitional forms" that have been discarded in history past. It appears that evolutionary dogma requires careless data presentation in order to survive.
!I would specifically list Piltdown man and Nebraska man, the latter of which was only the tooth of a pig
.Neanderthal man does little for the case of evolution, in light of the fact that there is now evidence that they buried their dead and enjoyed music
Creationists have a right to be left wondering just why so much debating is necessary among evolutionists when the evidence is supposedly so clear.
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