Creationist's turn

[seebs]

Originally posted by s0uljah
seebs-

He was saying that he doesn't elevate science to the status of creator, so I was wondering what he does credit it to, if not some sort of God.

My guess is that the answer is "I don't know". That was always my answer when I didn't believe in God, and it's a perfectly reasonable answer.

Of things I have had no explanation for, and later found an explanation, most have not been explained by "God did it".

 

[Warrior FC]

Originally posted by Mechanical Bliss
Do you even know what science is?

The scientific method was created by HUMANS, not your God.

...and last time I checked, I don't worship "science" or consider it a "creator" as most religions characterize "god".

Everything that is, has come from God!

Including science... God created science through man...ok? Understand?

 

[lithium.]

Originally posted by Warrior FC
Everything that is, has come from God!

Including science... God created science through man...ok? Understand?

Nope humans created science. Ok do you understand now? lOL

 

[Mechanical Bliss]

Originally posted by Warrior FC
Everything that is, has come from God!

Including science... God created science through man...ok? Understand?

 

Science is evidently a human creation.

 

[Warrior FC]

Who or what gave humans their abilties?

 

[lithium.]

Originally posted by Warrior FC
Who or what gave humans their abilties?

Evolution!

 

[JohnR7]

Originally posted by seebs
My guess is that the answer is "I don't know". 

That is often the same thing as saying, I am to lazy to search out that answer for you. In some cases it is justifed because people will try to get us to do their work for them. In other cases, it is just an excuse to sit down and do nothing. It is a violation of science that will at least try to come up with three theorys if they can not find the answer to something.

 

[JohnR7]

Originally posted by Warrior FC
God created science through man...ok? Understand?

God created man with the ability to be able to observe God's creation. Also, God put understanding into Creation, so that man would be able to understand his observations.

Proverbs 2:6
    For the Lord gives wisdom;
    From His mouth come knowledge and understanding;


 

 

[Warrior FC]

Originally posted by seesaw
Evolution!

So,you say that evolution has given humans their abilities?

 

 

 

[lithium.]

Originally posted by Warrior FC
So,you say that evolution has given humans their abilities?

 

 

Yep, or it was aliens.

 

[Warrior FC]

where do you get that kind of understanding or how did you come to that conclusion?

 

[lithium.]

Originally posted by Warrior FC
where do you get that kind of understanding or how did you cme to that conclusion?

IMO not anyone else's, but there isn't any other logical way. I don't believe in god and never will again. And it's the evidence for evolution that makes me say that.

 

[JohnR7]

Originally posted by seesaw
Yep, or it was aliens.

James 3:15 This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic.

Why call them aliens? Why not use their proper Bible name and call them demons?

 

[lithium.]

Originally posted by JohnR7
James 3:15 This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic.

Why call them aliens? Why not use their proper Bible name and call them demons?

I am not talking about demons.

I am talking about people from other worlds. dUh!

 

[Warrior FC]

Originally posted by seesaw
IMO not anyone else's, but there isn't any other logical way. I don't believe in god and never will again. And it's the evidence for evolution that makes me say that.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHY GOD HAS COMMISIONED ME TO OPPOSE EVOLUTION! IT TURNS PEOPLE AWAY FROM BELIEVING IN GOD!

It is a straight up lie from satan (the god of this world) as the bible states!

Seesaw, I know that you have persued God before, And I am here to tell you, that He is not far from you and if you seek Him out once again with all of your heart, You will find Him! I am a messenger sent here by Him to encourge you to return to Him! This also goes for others here that have fallen away because of the belief in theories from man that has caused people to become blinded to the truth in Christ Jesus!

Please take this seriously, and remember, to all of you here, God is listening, call upon Him today and He can be found, from your bedrooms, cry out to Him, from your living rooms, cry out to Him, you shall find Him!

(Anyone, Feel free to send me a private message and I will pray for/with you!)

 

[lithium.]

Originally posted by Warrior FC
THIS IS EXACTLY WHY GOD HAS COMMISIONED ME TO OPPOSE EVOLUTION! IT TURNS PEOPLE AWAY FROM BELIEVING IN GOD!

It is a straight up lie from satan (the god of this world) as the bible states!

Seesaw, I know that you have persued God before, And I am here to tell you, that He is not far from you and if you seek Him out once again with all of your heart, You will find Him! I am a messenger sent here by Him to encourge you to return to Him! This also goes for others here that have fallen away because of the belief in theories from man that has caused people to become blinded to the truth in Christ Jesus!

Please take this seriously, and remember, to all of you here, God is listening, call upon Him today and He can be found, from your bedrooms, cry out to Him, from your living rooms, cry out to Him, you shall find Him!

SORRY BUT EVOLUTION ISN'T WAY I AM NO LONGER A CHRISTIAN DUDE. I FOUND EVOLUTION AND PHYSICS AFTER I LEFT CHRISTIANITY. DANG...

Even if it would turn people away it's none of your business.

 

[Superman53142]

Originally posted by seesaw
IMO not anyone else's, but there isn't any other logical way. I don't believe in god and never will again. And it's the evidence for evolution that makes me say that.

Well, my friend, I am afraid that you are standing on very shaky ground if your disbelief in a personal God is based off of a scientific theory

Surely there must be a better reason for disbelief than "evidence for evolution," as there are most definantly better reasons for faith in a personal God than belief in creation.

I am a Christian, and I don't know where I stand in the whole evolution/creation mix. Why? Because I am unqualified. I do not have the knowledge of the subject to make an accurate judgement.

I would very much like to see where the Bible says that evolution is "a straight-up lie from satan," that could help me in maybe forming an informed opinion on this issue.

 

[lithium.]

Originally posted by Superman53142
Well, my friend, I am afraid that you are standing on very shaky ground if your disbelief in a personal God is based off of a scientific theory

Surely there must be a better reason for disbelief than "evidence for evolution," as there are most definantly better reasons for faith in a personal God than belief in creation.

I am a Christian, and I don't know where I stand in the whole evolution/creation mix. Why? Because I am unqualified. I do not have the knowledge of the subject to make an accurate judgement.

I would very much like to see where the Bible says that evolution is "a straight-up lie from satan," that could help me in maybe forming an informed opinion on this issue.

See I don't believe in god cause of evolution. Evolution doesn't say there isn't a god. It only tells how we god here. It doesn't say how the origins of life began. My disbelief in god comes from the fact that there is no proof or evidence for god. And no reason for there to be a god.

I have studied evolution for about 3 & half years now. And Physics for 4 almost 5 years. And IMO there is no god.

 

[Faithful1]

Originally posted by Warrior FC
So,you say that evolution has given humans their abilities?

Originally posted by seesaw
Yep, or it was aliens.

Yep, that is definitely Scientific logic...

Now you know why we don't think much of most evolutionist's 'scientific' conclusions.

 

[Chris†opher Paul]

I don't believe in god and never will again. And it's the evidence for evolution that makes me say that.

What a profound statement. Very telling!

I feel bad for you seesaw.

Personally, I found the opposite to be true. I was lied to as a student of evolution in school, and when I saw how it can't be true many years ago, I started to think there might be a God. *shrug*