Creationists embrace Evolution!

[Jerry Smith]

This being my 1000th post to the CF boards, I was glad to have the opportunity to pass on this great news!

Saturday evening at a special press conference held at Princeton University, a consortium of evolutionary biologists, molecular biologists and biochemists announced that after two decades of research into the field of the origin of life, they have finally and unanimously reached two conclusions: that natural abiogenesis is impossible and that it is "near ceratain" that some kind of God created the first life.

Dr. Izza Megiocare, director of Life Sciences of the University of Milan gave a brief interview to reporters after the conference, saying in part, "The remarkable thing
about our research is that it points to a beginning that has many parallels to the Biblical Genesis creation story, when the facts of our research are viewed from an evolutionary perspective. I have been an atheist for all of my life, but I now plan to re-think my beliefs about God. Had it not been for my studies in evolutionary biology, I would probably have died an atheist. It makes me shutter to think."

The reaction from Christian opponents of evolution has been swift. Several, including Dr. Frank Baceolus
of the Institution for Creation Discovery have announced plans to write books embracing this new view of evolution as the "Fingerprint of God." Baceolus, speaking from his home in Independence, MO, stated "I had recently begun to re-think my position on evolution. The arguments I had been making against it in public were becoming more and more a source of private doubt. My colleagues and I have been praying that the Lord would show us some remarkable new evidence that would bring our attention to the correct perspective on biological evolution. I can safely tell you that I have full confidence that our prayers have been answered. It has always been my contention that science, correctly understood, will always be the finger pointing to God. My only mistake was in making an exception for evolutionary biology."

Critics remain on both sides, but have become somewhat subdued. It is expected that many who criticize evolution will be publicly corrected for their infidelity both to the science and to the Christian faith. Nathan Prater, an outspoken critic of evolution in the past noted, "I have little doubt that Young Earth Creationists and their views will soon become as marginalized as the 'flat-earth' crowd is now. Many believers will open their eyes to science as the investigation into God's natural creation, second in importance only to the theological investigation into God's Word."

See the press release here:
Press Release

 

[OldBadfish]

LOL!!

Good one Jerry!

Happy 1000th post.

 

[Dorothyne]

Has it escaped everyones notice that the very simple fact is that all the so called evidence for evoultion can not be seen ever? They say it takes millions of years for layer to form, yet u can go to most any varity store and buy a gleass enclosure of differnt colored rocks and watch them form layer in a matter or seconds. Why would they insist otherwise in the face of such evidence?

Evolutionist say it take millions of years to have mineral growth but go to Mount Rushmore and there is mineral growth it is now millions of years old?

Consider these points for a moment, and let me know what you think.

 

[Mechanical Bliss]

Originally posted by Dorothyne
Has it escaped everyones notice that the very simple fact is that all the so called evidence for evoultion can not be seen ever? They say it takes millions of years for layer to form, yet u can go to most any varity store and buy a gleass enclosure of differnt colored rocks and watch them form layer in a matter or seconds. Why would they insist otherwise in the face of such evidence?

What evidence?

Do you really think a small container of rocks and sand suspended in water in a glass box is representative of the deposition of sedimentary strata which can be on the order of hundreds to thousands of square kilometers in area and several meters in thickness?

First of all, you need to consider that the material had to come from somewhere, right? We can measure rates of weathering. After the material is weathered, it has to be deposited; however, at the same time it's also being eroded, so there is only net deposition. Furthermore, all this deposited material is merely loose sediment and not lithified (that is, hardened into rock). This can occur in a variety of ways, such as being compacted under the pressure of the overlying sediment column as the layer accumulates or as the precipitation of a mineral in the interstices between grains.

Hutton's principle of uniformitarianism and radiometric dating (such as K-40/Ar-40 dating of a volcanic ash layer between sedimentary strata) give us good reason to believe that this is not a rapid process and has been occuring for long periods of time.

As for your Mt. Rushmore example, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

I'd also like to point out this question: what does this have to do with the theory of biological evolution? You are discussing basic principles of geology. There's much more to biological evolution that you are neglecting in favor of attacking fundamental principles of a well-established science.

 

[Morat]

  Ashfall. It formed discrete layers. Of course, this only works as a counterexample if you accept that (1) Geologists can't tell ash from rock, or (2) Ash and rock are exactly the same thing.

  Kind of stupid, but I guess it plays to the masses.

 

 

[lucaspa]

Originally posted by Dorothyne
Has it escaped everyones notice that the very simple fact is that all the so called evidence for evoultion can not be seen ever? They say it takes millions of years for layer to form, yet u can go to most any varity store and buy a gleass enclosure of differnt colored rocks and watch them form layer in a matter or seconds. Why would they insist otherwise in the face of such evidence? 

Your layers of different colored rocks are not fused together to make a rock like sandstone or shale, are they? It takes time and sediments on top (which take more time to form) to compress the sediment that you have to make a sedimentary rock.

 

[sulphur]

Its tuff at the top isn't it

 

[Rising_Suns]

Evolution is just a theory, and a shady one at best. It's more like a political agenda that promotes communism, racism, and a new world order.

 

 

[lithium.]

Evolution is just a theory, and a shady one at best.

How do you get that it's a shady theory man lol. There is new evidence for evolution that comes out almost every month.

 

[defblind&mute]

i am confused as to what the topic of this thread is.

 

[sulphur]

Nobody does just jump in and find something you know about and it willeither ignored or the roof will fall in.How about the prescence of glaucomite in arkose sandstones proves that oil produced from organisms must be at least 200 million years old.

 

[Blessed-one]

an annoucement to the changing view of some biologists?
sure.. we get sidetracked then.

 

[sulphur]

No geolgists

 

[MatthewDiscipleofGod]

Oh my that article is full of so much junk. It's also very insulting.

"infidelity both to the science and to the Christian faith"

That's a statement is totally untrue. The person stating that certainly doesn't have a clear understanding of what the Bible states.

"I have little doubt that Young Earth Creationists and their views will soon become as marginalized as the 'flat-earth' crowd is now."

Actually I see more Creationists coming about, just the opposite of what this article state. This article certainly is biased and not informative at all. Flat earth isn't a Christian theme like this article implies. Infact the Bible tell us that it's round, not flat so this statement right here just shows that this article is full of holes.

 

[unitedistand]

well, i'll just say this.

Either evolution is wrong or creation is wrong. There is no in-between.

the universe ie either billions of years old, as what Man has said, or the unierse is roughly six-thousand years old, as the bible has said, which Is the word of God. (add up the generations from Adam to the birth of Jesus, then from Jesus, add 2002.090909... years)

Now, I think it's a question of who you think is being truthful, and who you put your trust in. If God said through his world, that the universe is a couple thousand years old, even if the best scientific equipment says different, who will you trust?

 

[lithium.]

Originally posted by unitedistand
well, i'll just say this.

Either evolution is wrong or creation is wrong. There is no in-between.

the universe ie either billions of years old, as what Man has said, or the unierse is roughly six-thousand years old, as the bible has said, which Is the word of God. (add up the generations from Adam to the birth of Jesus, then from Jesus, add 2002.090909... years)

Now, I think it's a question of who you think is being truthful, and who you put your trust in. If God said through his world, that the universe is a couple thousand years old, even if the best scientific equipment says different, who will you trust?

I am not even going to touch this one.

 

[unitedistand]

well, since you're not a christian, I'd presume you'd not understand the things of God, because he's hidden things from the self-proclaimed, so-called wise one's and shown much revelation to those who trust him implicitly.

 

[lithium.]

edited....

 

[Stormy]

Jerry!!! Thank You!!

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I think that many of my Christian friends are missing the point. This is not just another thread to argue the merits of evolution. This is truly a wonderful gift. Jerry is an atheist but yet he posted something that should cause the hearts of Christians to rejoice.

Saturday evening at a special press conference held at Princeton University, a consortium of evolutionary biologists, molecular biologists and biochemists announced that after two decades of research into the field of the origin of life, they have finally and unanimously reached two conclusions: that natural abiogenesis is impossible and that it is "near ceratain" that some kind of God created the first life.

This is good!

I have been an atheist for all of my life, but I now plan to re-think my beliefs about God. Had it not been for my studies in evolutionary biology, I would probably have died an atheist. It makes me shutter to think."

This is even better!!

Jerry: Now what about you?? I pray that you also will see the knowledge of God.

 

[lithium.]

haha never mind.