Creationists: can you explain post-Flood repopulation?

[Susan Sto Helit]

I have another question for the creationists in the forum (by "creationists" I mean the people who are Biblical literalists).

If you take the account of the Flood in the Book of Genesis as literal (ie, global flood with the only survivors being in Noah's Ark), how do you explain the Earth's repopulation and current human diversity starting with a population of 8 (related) people roughly 4400 years ago? Your explanation must respect the current archaeological evidence pertaining to this period.

Explain also how the current biodiversity was achieved from 2 animals of each "kind" and 7 of clean "kind" (note that, according to Genesis, 1 animal each of clean kind was sacrificed after the Ark came down on Ararat), plus whatever plants Noah and his family took into the Ark.

No magical explanations allowed, please.

-----SSH

 

[Magnus Vile]

Oh that one is easy, its breed like bunnies for the humans, while the animals go through turbo hyper evolution that unaccountably stopped a couple of centuries ago.

 

[Mistermystery]

creationist in general relate modern human growth (i.o.w. the growth we have nowadays) to growth back then, so their population grows exponentially in some freaked up way. Still doesn't work though, because that would mean that at the time jesus lived, there were about 1 million people in the world.

 

[Susan Sto Helit]

Oh that one is easy, its breed like bunnies for the humans, while the animals go through turbo hyper evolution that unaccountably stopped a couple of centuries ago.

*slaps forehead* Of course!

-----SSH

 

[Magnus Vile]

creationist in general relate modern human growth (i.o.w. the growth we have nowadays) to growth back then, so their population grows exponentially in some freaked up way. Still doesn't work though, because that would mean that at the time jesus lived, there were about 1 million people in the world.

Its a lot worse than that, it also means that there were about 726 people around at the time of Moses...

 

[Jet Black]

creationist in general relate modern human growth (i.o.w. the growth we have nowadays) to growth back then, so their population grows exponentially in some freaked up way. Still doesn't work though, because that would mean that at the time jesus lived, there were about 1 million people in the world.

it's worth noting that at the time Jesus lived, there were more people than that in rome.

 

[Susan Sto Helit]

creationist in general relate modern human growth (i.o.w. the growth we have nowadays) to growth back then, so their population grows exponentially in some freaked up way. Still doesn't work though, because that would mean that at the time jesus lived, there were about 1 million people in the world.

Oh, I know. I think they actually use a growth rate even higher than the one we have nowadays, and still the pyramids are built by 5 people.

Maybe they were very small pyramids.

-----SSH

 

[Jet Black]

Its a lot worse than that, it also means that there were about 726 people around at the time of Moses...

I want to play the egyptian today

 

[Dragar]

No magical explanations allowed, please.

That's the problem. With God, all things are possible, remember?

Pratchett rules, by the way.

Dragar

 

[Magnus Vile]

Of course, the 726 people on the planet at the time of the Exodus causes a minor creationist problem, since the infallible book claims there were 603,550 men during the Exodus...

Of course, they have an answer, which serves them well in situations like this, and I'm sure one will be along to ignore the problem in a minute.

 

[Susan Sto Helit]

I want to play the egyptian today

I can't possibly be the only one who's having Barley Townswomens' Guild Presents the Ten Plagues of Egypt images...

-----SSH

 

[Magnus Vile]

Incidentally, in 28 BC the Romans carried out a census, which gave the population of the Roman Empire at between 70 - 100 million people, which is obviously incorrect as any YEC with a calculator can tell you that the total world population at the time was only about half a million.

 

[Jet Black]

I can't possibly be the only one who's having Barley Townswomens' Guild Presents the Ten Plagues of Egypt images...

-----SSH

sorry, I don't like handbags

 

[Susan Sto Helit]

Incidentally, in 28 BC the Romans carried out a census, which gave the population of the Roman Empire at between 70 - 100 million people, which is obviously incorrect as any YEC with a calculator can tell you that the total world population at the time was only about half a million.

You're not going to believe those heathen Romans, are you? Clearly, all their data was inspired by the Devil.

-----SSH

 

[Susan Sto Helit]

Notice how the crickets doth chirp and no creationist answer is forthcoming...

Jet Black, I am sure alternative implements are allowed. How about the Cabbage of Vegetative Increase?

-----SSH

 

[Jet Black]

Notice how the crickets doth chirp and no creationist answer is forthcoming...

Jet Black, I am sure alternative implements are allowed. How about the Cabbage of Vegetative Increase?

-----SSH

they are tapping away at their calculators to figure out quite how many children noah's sons and their wives must have had to simultaneously repopulate the Roman and Egyprian empires up to recorded levels at the time, not to mention the rest of the world.

 

[Magnus Vile]

Notice how the crickets doth chirp and no creationist answer is forthcoming...

-----SSH

The problem is that the YECs interpretation of the infallibility of the Bible makes the Bible a liar, and fallible. Rather than address this problem they will ignore it as is traditional with YECs confronted by evidence.

 

[HRE]

I hear something on the wind...

Oh, yeah, it is about a dozen YECs not typing away on their keyboards. Pleasant change, no?

 

[Vance]

they are tapping away at their calculators to figure out quite how many children noah's sons and their wives must have had to simultaneously repopulate the Roman and Egyprian empires up to recorded levels at the time, not to mention the rest of the world.

Not the Romans, that was a bit later. The relevant cultures would be Egyptian, Sumerian, Chinese and the Indus Valley. Those cultures mysteriously continued on without a blip on the radar despite the flood. What I find most interesting is that they not only replaced all the people in those cultures, but those descendents of Noah coming in oddly adopted the same language, culture, achitecture, art and (here is the kicker) RELIGION that had previously existed.

YEC's hearing this tend to push back the date of the flood to a more "convenient" date. Of course, this abandons the literal reading of the genealogies, which is what their young earth is based on, so what's the point?

AiG sticks to their guns regarding the date of the flood and just ignores all the historical and cultural issues. Much less messy.

 

[Freodin]

And evilutionists uniformitarism raises its ugly head again...


Do you really think that the population growth rate was constant all the time?

No, of course not!

Look at the world today - how fast the population grows... but yet most families have one two or three children.
But that isn´t the maximum of childeren a man can sire in his lifetime, especially if he is allowed to have more than one wife (which seems to be the case in early biblical times)

So it is obvious that populations multiplied by a few 1000 percent in the years immediatly after the flood, and only continued to rise at the currently observed levels when, err, when Creationists need it to do so.


See, it´s obvious and you are all stupid if you don´t accept that.