Creationists: can you explain post-Flood repopulation?

[Blue Wren]

How did animals, get to continents, around the world, after Noah & his family, got off their magic ark?

 

[AV1611VET]

How did animals, get to continents, around the world, after Noah & his family, got off their magic ark?

First, there were no continents when the animals got off the Ark.

The earth at the time was one landmass from Genesis 1.

Genesis 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

The Bible calls it Eden, scientists call it Pangaea.

The one single ocean that emcompassed this landmass was called Panthalassa.

Second, you have to realize that God brought the animals to the Ark, and He would certainly lead them back home.

One way He could have done that is intimated in Acts 8 with the Apostle Philip.

Acts 8:38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
Acts 8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
Acts 8:40 But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.

Just as God teleported Philip miles away, He could have teleported the animals back to their respective ecological niches as they disembarked.

 

[dad]

How did animals, get to continents, around the world, after Noah & his family, got off their magic ark?

As was mentioned, it is likely that the continental separation was after the flood. I would also suspect that rapid evolving/adapting was the normal order of that day, so animals could speciate fast.

 

[dad]

dad, name one. From your past performance you do not seem to know what an assumption is.

Two assumptions in the graph are that the population was small in the beginning, and that it will continue at present rate till 2025.

 

[Queller]

Yet the graph is pregnant with assumptions and date prophesies.

Not in the least. I will admit that it doesn't take your "different-state past" nonsense into account but then again, since there is no evidence for it, why would they?

BTW, do you even understand the difference between a projection and a prophecy?

 

[Aman777]

I have another question for the creationists in the forum (by "creationists" I mean the people who are Biblical literalists).

If you take the account of the Flood in the Book of Genesis as literal (ie, global flood with the only survivors being in Noah's Ark), how do you explain the Earth's repopulation and current human diversity starting with a population of 8 (related) people roughly 4400 years ago? Your explanation must respect the current archaeological evidence pertaining to this period.

Explain also how the current biodiversity was achieved from 2 animals of each "kind" and 7 of clean "kind" (note that, according to Genesis, 1 animal each of clean kind was sacrificed after the Ark came down on Ararat), plus whatever plants Noah and his family took into the Ark.

No magical explanations allowed, please.

-----SSH

Dear Susan, The answer is simple but your premise is flawed because of confusion brought about by the theological views of ancient men. What Genesis actually says is that the Ark brought Human intelligence to this planet of prehistoric people. All Humans are the descendants of Adam, the first Human. Prehistoric mankind was NOT Human because they did not have the superior intelligence of Adam.

Adam's world was "clean dissolved" Isa 24:19 in the flood. Humans arrived on this world some 10k years ago in the Ark. The eight Humans on the Ark were ALL married but the children inside them were brought to a world where they had NO other humans to marry. Like Cain, on Adam's world, they married and began producing Humans (Adam's descendants) with the prehistoric people who were already here when Noah arrived. Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE

These eight Humans, along with the Million or so prehistoric people, produced the SEVEN Billion Humans (descendants of Adam) alive on planet Earth today, along with the biodiversity we see today. It's truly a Miarcle. God Bless you

BTW: There were millions of species of animals here when Noah arrived and kept alive the creatures which Jesus had made with His own Hands. Gen 2:19

 

[lifepsyop]

How did animals, get to continents, around the world, after Noah & his family, got off their magic ark?

Here's a primer on the subject, something I'm sure the evolutionists will endlessly wring their hands over because it actually makes sense.

From the Ark, Terrestrial animal life was distributed either by land migration or rafting via oceanic currents. Dispersal through ocean currents also explains distributions of terrestrial plant life along coastlines.

Migration after the Flood - Dominic Stratham
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAjpbwH8teo

Interestingly, evolutionists invoke ocean-crossing rafting events to explain certain animal biogeographies, yet when creationists do the same, they go into conniptions. It's a familiar double-standard that often arises in these discussions.

 

[crjmurray]

Here's a primer on the subject, something I'm sure the evolutionists will endlessly wring their hands over because it actually makes sense.

From the Ark, Terrestrial animal life was distributed either by land migration or rafting via oceanic currents. Dispersal through ocean currents also explains distributions of terrestrial plant life along coastlines.

Migration after the Flood - Dominic Stratham
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAjpbwH8teo

Interestingly, evolutionists invoke ocean-crossing rafting events to explain certain animal biogeographies, yet when creationists do the same, they go into conniptions. It's a familiar double-standard that often arises in these discussions.

You call evolution a myth but you don't blink when it comes to the mental gymnastics required to take the flood seriously. That's uh.....that's pretty silly.

 

[dad]

Not in the least. I will admit that it doesn't take your "different-state past" nonsense into account but then again, since there is no evidence for it, why would they?

They take only a belief that has no proof into account, the issue is not what they don't consider. The same state past is out, period. Anyone who tries to sneak it in without proof is not going to get the free ride anymore.

BTW, do you even understand the difference between a projection and a prophecy?

They can ammount to the same thing. If I project climate or evolving, or what will happen to the sun..based on the belief that all things will continue as they were..that is prophesy. False prophesy.

 

[SkyWriting]

I have another question for the creationists in the forum (by "creationists" I mean the people who are Biblical literalists).

If you take the account of the Flood in the Book of Genesis as literal (ie, global flood with the only survivors being in Noah's Ark), how do you explain the Earth's repopulation and current human diversity starting with a population of 8 (related) people roughly 4400 years ago? Your explanation must respect the current archaeological evidence pertaining to this period.

Explain also how the current biodiversity was achieved from 2 animals of each "kind" and 7 of clean "kind" (note that, according to Genesis, 1 animal each of clean kind was sacrificed after the Ark came down on Ararat), plus whatever plants Noah and his family took into the Ark.

No magical explanations allowed, please.

-----SSH

Evolution, or change, can happen very, very fast.
All the life on the Ark was hand-picked by God,
according to the text.

 

[dad]

Here's a primer on the subject, something I'm sure the evolutionists will endlessly wring their hands over because it actually makes sense.

From the Ark, Terrestrial animal life was distributed either by land migration or rafting via oceanic currents. Dispersal through ocean currents also explains distributions of terrestrial plant life along coastlines.
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You say it "was" distributed. Maybe you should say maybe or might have been or possibly was or something.

I think it makes a lot more sense to see the animals getting moved on moving continents.

 

[SkyWriting]

You say it "was" distributed. Maybe you should say maybe or might have been or possibly was or something.

I think it makes a lot more sense to see the animals getting moved on moving continents.

Moving a floating island out of the way:

 

[dad]

Moving a floating island out of the way:

In the end every Island will move and 'flee away'. It won't be a motorboat pushing them any more than it will be a sledgehammer flattening all mountains. We just need to respect the power of God.

Now there's something to try and ignore.

 

[PsychoSarah]

As was mentioned, it is likely that the continental separation was after the flood. I would also suspect that rapid evolving/adapting was the normal order of that day, so animals could speciate fast.

Uh oh dad, you messed up. If those species were rapidly evolving, then what about HUMANS?!

 

[dad]

Uh oh dad, you messed up. If those species were rapidly evolving, then what about HUMANS?!

Humans too. Remember Neanderthal man and etc? We also have differences such as skin...etc. When else would that sort of thing have mostly happened?

Nice try.

 

[sandybay]

Humans too. Remember Neanderthal man and etc? We also have differences such as skin...etc. When else would that sort of thing have mostly happened?

All you need do now is back that up with a little evidence and we can go on from there.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Humans too. Remember Neanderthal man and etc? We also have differences such as skin...etc. When else would that sort of thing have mostly happened?

Nice try.

dad, we have Neanderthal DNA. They are not a human ancestor, in fact, for a period of time, Neanderthals and humans existed at the same time, but in different geographic regions. Their bone structure is highly different from our own. http://johndenugent.us/images/comparing-skeletons-neanderthal-and-cro-magnon1.jpg so much so that even an unexperienced person would at least notice the ribcage.

 

[dad]

All you need do now is back that up with a little evidence and we can go on from there.

We know that N man is a relative if I recall. We know therefore that we 'adapted' or changed. Science can't say when except by faith, and I can do that too. Try to get some evidence before rejecting the evidence of Scripture next time. You are in no position to demand anything.

 

[PsychoSarah]

We know that N man is a relative if I recall. We know therefore that we 'adapted' or changed. Science can't say when except by faith, and I can do that too. Try to get some evidence before rejecting the evidence of Scripture next time. You are in no position to demand anything.

Nope, a lucky find of Neanderthal DNA confirms that they are not a human ancestor.

 

[dad]

dad, we have Neanderthal DNA. They are not a human ancestor, in fact, for a period of time, Neanderthals and humans existed at the same time, but in different geographic regions. Their bone structure is highly different from our own. http://johndenugent.us/images/comparing-skeletons-neanderthal-and-cro-magnon1.jpg so much so that even an unexperienced person would at least notice the ribcage.

Doesn't matter at all with rapid evolution! We changed as needed fast. The only place that matters in inside your baseless belief system where you subjectively declare N man 'not a human'. No change is too great for the wonderful real past.

I seem to recall someone mentioning that N man interbred with humans. Do you really think people were so daft after the flood that they had sex with monkeys?