Creationism Falsified!

[Siyha]

Creationism claims that the sky is actually made of water, but there is very strong evidence in the scientific community that its not made of water.

Its easy to look up and see the sky is blue, and conclude that it is a giant ocean. After all, precipitation comes from the sky, therefore it one might conclude the sky is made of it.

One simply needs to note that astronauts have never recorded going through a water mass while travelling to outer space. But this does not explain the colour and the precipitation. Could it be that astronauts are denying the existence of water around the atmosphere because of a conspiracy or hidden agenda in the space exploration sciences? In order to refute this, we would have to prove alternate ways for the sky to be blue and water to fall from it, other than it being just a giant ocean. Luckily, science has made such discoveries!

Why is the sky blue?
Scientists now know that it has to do with the way light from the sun refracts through the specific chemical composition in our atmosphere. It is actually a lot more complicated than that, so if you want a more detailed explanation, you can click here or here for a much more detailed explanation of it.

Why does water fall from the sky?
Turns out, the water is actually coming from the surface of the earth. It evaporates from various bodies of water, and even wet land. Once it reaches a certain altitude and the conditions are right, it forms "clouds". Turns out clouds are not gateways to the water store houses in the ocean in the heavens, they are just collections of evaporated water. Once this collection reaches a certain density though, the water falls! Weather channels never tell you this though, because they have a biased creationism agenda. They keep you thinking the clouds are open windows to the ocean above that move along the earth and let rain down from heaven.

When you present this to creationists on the street with a camera in their face, and tell them to explain it, they all just stare blankly, totally stunned.

Thus, by refuting that the sky is not made of water, creationism itself has been refuted.

 

[Mick116]

Except that "creationism" doesn't claim the sky is made of water; the claim to the contrary simply reveals the somewhat inconsistent hermenutic of such creationists.

 

[Darkness27]

Isn't the sky blue because the color blue its wavelength does not create shadow / does not bend, like all the other colors do?

Psst, this is a Christian only section.

Anyway, yes, the blue light does behave differently than other light. But the composition of the atmosphere with the density and how much atmosphere the light goes through are all factors in to which wavelengths are finally seen here down on Earth. The sky isn't blue all the time, just look near the Sun when it is going up or setting down. Because the sunlight is going through more atmosphere than when directly overhead, the blue is dispersed more than the red light giving it the ominous redish pink glow associated with sunsets and rises.

 

[Mallon]

Inverse Poe.

 

[Siyha]

Isn't the sky blue because the color blue its wavelength does not create shadow / does not bend, like all the other colors do?

If you click on the first link in my post, it is a really good video that shows examples of how the light becomes blue. I find visual aids always helpful

 

[Etsi]

I don't know any creationist that claims such *scratches head* so I'm not certain who exactly you are arguing against. It's definitely not creationism.

 

[Siyha]

I don't know any creationist that claims such *scratches head* so I'm not certain who exactly you are arguing against. It's definitely not creationism.

sure they do.

6 And God said, "Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water." 7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the expanse "sky." And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

 

[pgp_protector]

sure they do.

6 And God said, "Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water." 7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the expanse "sky." And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

But isn't that where the Flood water came from, so it wouldn't be their any more

 

[Siyha]

But isn't that where the Flood water came from, so it wouldn't be their any more

If only creationists bought canopy theory anymore, but I haven't encountered one for a long time, leading me to assume the sky was still ocean in their view.

Additionally, the rest of the old testament also talks about the flood gates opening for rain to come down from the waters stored above the heavens. The idea of the sky being an ocean doesn't stop with Noah, it extends throughout the Old Testament.

I was going to also show that the sun is not in our atmosphere, as creationism also claims, but I thought I'd save that for another thread. (See Genesis 1:16-17) The reason I bring it up here is that it shows the invalidity of any form of canopy theory because the water would have been beyond the sun and the stars, and any sphere made up of that much water would have completely destroyed the earth (or made the grand canyon), not just flooded it, if it came down.

 

[Voice in the Desert]

Evolution has been disproven because the grass is green.

Thank you.

 

[philadiddle]

If only creationists bought canopy theory anymore, but I haven't encountered one for a long time, leading me to assume the sky was still ocean in their view.

Since they used to argue for the canopy hypothesis, but then abandoned it when they couldn't make it physically work, you have to wonder why they were willing to change their literal interpretation because of scientific evidence. I mean, not only is it impossible to change the one true literal reading of Genesis 1, but to do it based on science?!...heretics

 

[philadiddle]

Evolution has been disproven because the grass is green.

Thank you.

Huh?

 

[Girlee]

There is defiantely water in the sky above us.
I've never heard anyone say there is ONLY water in the sky above us, or that is the reason the sky is blue, and I don't see where the bible says that, either.

Now, if science proved there was NOT water above us, that it was ONLY found here on earth, now you would have a point there.

 

[philadiddle]

There is defiantely water in the sky above us.
I've never heard anyone say there is ONLY water in the sky above us, or that is the reason the sky is blue, and I don't see where the bible says that, either.

Now, if science proved there was NOT water above us, that it was ONLY found here on earth, now you would have a point there.

The bible says that the God separated the waters above and the waters below with the firmament. It has been interpreted to mean (and originally meant) that there was actual water above the atmosphere.

 

[Girlee]

Now, if science proved there was NOT water above us, that it was ONLY found here on earth, now you would have a point there.

The bible says that the God separated the waters above and the waters below with the firmament. It has been interpreted to mean (and originally meant) that there was actual water above the atmosphere.[/quote]

there is--there are clouds in the sky.
And there is water throughout the universe.

 

[philadiddle]

there is--there are clouds in the sky.
And there is water throughout the universe.

So God took water from the earth and spread it out throughout the entire universe? Then He put the sun, moon and stars in our atmosphere below the clouds?

 

[Girlee]

ok, you have me on the stars below the clouds.
But that still does not mean that there could not have been plenty of water, all surrounding the earth, and much of that water was put way out into the universe, even beyond the stars.

 

[Smidlee]

The bible says that the God separated the waters above and the waters below with the firmament. It has been interpreted to mean (and originally meant) that there was actual water above the atmosphere.

There is actually water above us. What, you think that even a common fisherman in the past would not noticed the difference between water in the sea and in the sky? You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure this out.

 

[philadiddle]

ok, you have me on the stars below the clouds.
But that still does not mean that there could not have been plenty of water, all surrounding the earth, and much of that water was put way out into the universe, even beyond the stars.

What would the point of that have been? The universe is over 80 million light years in size. Why would God take water from earth and arbitrarily put a little bit of it elsewhere in the universe? It is completely meaningless to try to make that passage scientific.

 

[philadiddle]

There is actually water above us. What, you think that even a common fisherman in the past would not noticed the difference between water in the sea and in the sky? You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure this out.

He separated those waters with the firmament, and in the firmament He placed the sun, moon and stars. I haven't seen you around lately, I think you missed the long discussion about it. http://www.christianforums.com/t7469018/