Creation, where's the Proof.

[Follower of Christ]

5th April 2003 at 04:07 PM Arikay said this in Post #78

LOL

He either can send a decieving influence to those who refuse the truth

FoC you do realize to decieve someone is equivilant to lieing, right?

''And now, behold, Jehovah has put a lying spirit in the mouth of these your prophets. And Jehovah has spoken evil against you. ''
(2 Chronicles 18:22 LITV)



And the prophet, if he is deceived, and he speaks a word, I, Jehovah, have deceived that prophet. And I will stretch out My hand on him and will destroy him from the midst of My people Israel.
(Ezekiel 14:9 LITV)

 

[Arikay]

Follower: I think I understand where you are commoning from now.

 

[Freedom777]

Quote:
Freedom, you are being conned and don't even realize the con.

Are you sure about that?

 

[Nathan Poe]

5th April 2003 at 09:04 PM Follower of Christ said this in Post #80




You know, if you would actually break out that dusty old book under your coffe table, you might learn who God is and how He does things.

If you refuse to, then dont expect to even have the slightest idea of what you're talking about concerning scripture or God.

Wow, you've combined a non sequitor, a personal attack, and a special pleading fallacy in one post. You must really be out of ideas.

 

[Follower of Christ]

5th April 2003 at 11:55 PM Nathan Poe said this in Post #84



Wow, you've combined a non sequitor, a personal attack, and a special pleading fallacy in one post. You must really be out of ideas.

I was out of ideas long before I came in here.

The only thing I have left is to help strengthen my brethren in here who believe Gods word.

I only wish there were words to show Gods truth, but I know that without His intervention, the blind will continue to become more blind.

As believers all we can do is present His truth and pray that He chooses to have mercy on some by showing them truth.

 

[Nathan Poe]

6th April 2003 at 12:10 AM Follower of Christ said this in Post #85


I was out of ideas long before I came in here.

The only thing I have left is to help strengthen my brethren in here who believe Gods word.

I only wish there were words to show Gods truth, but I know that without His intervention, the blind will continue to become more blind.

As believers all we can do is present His truth and pray that He chooses to have mercy on some by showing them truth.

Well then, doesn't that make spreading the Gospel a waste of time?

 

[Follower of Christ]

6th April 2003 at 12:20 AM Nathan Poe said this in Post #86



Well then, doesn't that make spreading the Gospel a waste of time?

No.

I have been present when He as taken the veil away from someones eyes.

I will never give up my purpose in deceiving as many as I can into going to heaven with me.

 

[Arikay]

So, you believe you are definatly destined for heaven?

 

[Follower of Christ]

6th April 2003 at 12:32 AM Arikay said this in Post #88

So, you believe you are definatly destined for heaven?

I do believe one can walk away from a relationship with God or lose savation resulting from blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, but other than that, I have the assurance of salvation per the requirements in the Bible.

If you are about to present any other religion in your next post, dont bother, I ignore other beliefs.

 

[Arikay]

No I wasnt, I was just curious if you believed you had a free pass to heaven or not.

 

[wblastyn]

If you are about to present any other religion in your next post, dont bother, I ignore other beliefs.

Great, I'm sure everyone will want to become a Christian after hearing you say that.

 

[Follower of Christ]

Today at 05:58 AM wblastyn said this in Post #91


Great, I'm sure everyone will want to become a Christian after hearing you say that.

Would you have me honor other gods who are no gods at all?

Is that what it would take to get someone to Christ?

I will do just about anything to show the Lord to someone, but acknowledging some other god as such, I wont do for anyone.

There is one God, and He is a jealous God.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Today at 12:26 AM Follower of Christ said this in Post #87


No.

I have been present when He as taken the veil away from someones eyes.

But the point is, God certainly didn't need your help to do that. If only God can change a person's heart, why do you bother?

I will never give up my purpose in deceiving as many as I can into going to heaven with me.

So it's okay to lie for a good cause? Is that what Christ taught?

 

[wblastyn]

Would you have me honor other gods who are no gods at all?

Is that what it would take to get someone to Christ?

I will do just about anything to show the Lord to someone, but acknowledging some other god as such, I wont do for anyone.

There is one God, and He is a jealous God.

No, but how do you expect people to listen to what you have to say about Christianity when you can't listen to what they have to say about their own religion/beliefs.

 

[Follower of Christ]

Today at 10:07 AM Nathan Poe said this in Post #93



But the point is, God certainly didn't need your help to do that. If only God can change a person's heart, why do you bother?



So it's okay to lie for a good cause? Is that what Christ taught?

That one just blew right past you didnt it??

God needs nothing from any of us.

But He loves us and has given His followers the commission to go to the ends of the earth spreading the Gospel.

Just like Angels.
God doesnt have to use them to get something done, but He created them with a purpose, so they do what He wishes to be pleasing to Him.

I dont spread the gospel because God cant do it, I do it because He wants me to.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Today at 10:29 AM Follower of Christ said this in Post #95


That one just blew right past you didnt it??

God needs nothing from any of us.

But He loves us and has given His followers the commission to go to the ends of the earth spreading the Gospel.

Which will only work if he decides it will, and of course, He can do the job himself, with no effort, if He so chooses.

Sounds like a fool's errand to me. Just something to keep you busy until it's time to die.

Just like Angels.
God doesnt have to use them to get something done, but He created them with a purpose, so they do what He wishes to be pleasing to Him.

or else..... hehehe

I dont spread the gospel because God cant do it, I do it because He wants me to.

...for no reason whatsoever.

It's not enough that God says "jump," and you jump. God says "jump," and you have to get everyone else to jump, or else...

Any wonder I deconverted?

 

[Follower of Christ]

Today at 10:41 AM Nathan Poe said this in Post #96


Any wonder I deconverted?

AHHHH, now I see.

Walked away did we.

Well then, I will keep that in mind as I read your posts.

 

[wblastyn]

AHHHH, now I see.

Walked away did we.

Well then, I will keep that in mind as I read your posts.

Did it ever occur to you that if people walk away from Christianity because of something you said, you obviously said something wrong?

 

[Follower of Christ]

Today at 12:02 PM wblastyn said this in Post #98


Did it ever occur to you that if people walk away from Christianity because of something you said, you obviously said something wrong?

Now my turn to ask...

If you so easily walk away from GOD because of something ANY MAN says, who was your relationship with, God or man?


I follow Christ. I dont care what other christians are saying or teaching.
You dont think I have had my share of folks saying things I didnt like?
I chose to find out what God himself says, so should you.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Today at 11:31 AM Follower of Christ said this in Post #97


AHHHH, now I see.

Walked away did we.

Well then, I will keep that in mind as I read your posts.

Please do keep in mind that you're talking to someone who's been on the inside, who has studied Christianity and the Bible, and who has decided not to worship a book.

The more I see "holy scripture" trip over itself, and the more I see desperate "True Believers" scramble to elevate the Book over the creation, the more secure I feel in my agnosticism.